Summations Only

So you're telling us repeatedly in several messages already that you are too feeble-minded to be able to understand anything you're told.For once, I believe that you are telling us the truth. Which would be doomed to failure because you are self-admittedly far too stupid and feeble-minded to be able to understand any explanation that anyone could offer. It would be a complete waste of time and effort. You have described yourself as being beyond redemption. How could you possibly know that a theology is excellent and not pure bullshit? You are self-admittedly far too stupid and feeble-minded to be able to evaluate anything, let alone a theology.If someone placed a cow-pie (ie, cow manure) on a plate in front of you and told you that it is delicious, you would gobble the whole thing with a big shit-eating grin on your face. As you have repeatedly described and repeatedly demonstrated, you are indeed that mentally deficient.If you cannot keep up and can only post foolish nonsense, why even try? All you are accomplishing is to demonstrate the brain damage that your religion causes its followers.

We already have, many times, repeatedly. You were incapable of understanding anything.Remember, you are the one who keeps telling us that you are far too mentally incompetent to understand anything at all. So you could not even begin to understand our explanations, as you have repeatedly stated explicitly. And you obviously are far too mentally incompetent (as you repeatedly admit yourself) to ever be able to evaluate any theology, let alone determine whether it's right or wrong.All of which ignores the simple fact that all theologies are wrong. All theologies are Man-made, are created by fallible humans. And given your degree of mental incompetence, which makes you far more fallible than most other humans, then the theology that you have created is in far worse shape than most others.Of course, you could decide to believe in human infallibility, but that's an extremely stupid thing to believe in.

Nor is that.

To add to Tangle's response to your trolling, Message 555, it speaks volumes to us all of your false religion, in Jesus' own words (according to the Matthew 7:20 Test):

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7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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You fucking evil hypocrite!

There's an old quote that even I use on one of my pages. I think it was attributed to Mark Twain, but also to Disraeli. There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.However, it is at that point that ignorance intercedes. Now in that context, statistics refers to the individual data points individually. In order to make any sense of those individual data points, you need to perform statistical analysis.Dredge, how much of statistical analysis do you understand? Percy was talking about statistical analysis. Do you have any knowledge at all about the mathematics involved? Or, like everything else you have pontificated about, are you yet again abysmally ignorant?

Nope. You were positively ID'd. Why are you dragging Catholicism into this? I didn't say anything about Catholicism, but rather I was talking about your false religion: creationism based on "creation science". The one for which you must keep yourself willfully ignorant. The one which has turned you into a mindless troll. The one that leads you to lie. The one which, according to Christian doctrine, has you serving Satan.You are wicked fruit and what your religion has done to you is wicked fruit. That makes your religion wicked and false. But then that's what Jesus says and when have creationists and fundamentalists ever paid attention to what Jesus said?

Really? We've already gone over that and you still have absolutely no clue? Why do you insist on being such an idiot?Marcus Lycus (played on film by Phil Silvers) had your number:

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Lycus: If I've told you once, I've told you a hundred times; do not fan the girls when they're wet! But you'll never learn, you'll be a eunuch all your life.

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Not going to happen, because devils are not so stupid as to waste their time with such efforts.Instead, they will create false theologies like "creation science" which teach its followers that the universe being the way that it is, the way that God had created it, disproves God. Not only do devils get an immense return on investment with such false theologies, but they don't even have to do any work -- all they have to do is give that false theology to a creationist who will then spread it with extreme zealousness. Their victims do all the work for them!

That would have been far too much work filled with far too many details to keep straight.Obviously, Satan merely created a theology that teaches that those fossils and all the other evidence would disprove God. The beauty of that plan is that all he had to do was to give it to some "true Christians" who would then do all the work of spreading it.

This idiocy has been going on for years now. To my knowledge, all of Faith's objections are drawn solely from that very drawing, which is not even to scale. Coupled with her religion's requirement that she deny reality, that's all that she's going on.I'm sorry, but some people are just so hopelessly lost that we have to give up on them. Faith will just simply make no effort to think anything through for fear of what she might discover -- look at how she had proven all on her own that micro-evolution leads to macro-evolution, only to immediately back-pedal and deny everything the moment she realized what she had done. I'm sorry, but she is just a hopeless case.

That drawing is not evidence, but rather an artist's compilation and representation of the actual evidence. The actual evidence are the rock formations themselves. Others have tried to point you to the actual evidence and presented photographs of the actual evidence (which are much better than a drawing that is not even to scale), but you have refused all evidence in favor of that drawing.Faith, how many years has it been that we've had to repeated ask you to please learn some geology! You never have. Why not? Because of your bad theology? You presented the "basic felid created kind" in order to argue against macro-evolution. For once, you went against type and actually thought through the problem and stepped through the process by which the original Ur-felid had through the accumulation of micro-evolution steps resulted in the formation of new species. When we pointed out that that result was macro-evolution, you immediately went into denial and started redefining the world. Changing reality through redefining only works for lawyers, theologians, and deceivers. It does not work in the real world.

Which is yet another reason why everybody sees your "Flood explanation" for what it actually is: complete and utter bullshit nonsense. Please stop feeding us nothing but mindless bullshit.

A local skeptics organizer has often told us about his approach to what he thinks and believes. He takes the approach of trying to disprove it. If you succeed in disproving your idea, then it's not worth keeping. If you are unable to disprove your idea, then it just might have something going for it.Faith, have you ever actually tried to test your ideas? From all those geology books that you boast of having, you should have learned something about the processes of geology and what evidence they leave. So applying that knowledge of geological processes to the formations under discussion, what do we actually find?Faith, in everything that you have written, I am very certain that you have learned nothing about geological processes, let alone having applied them to any of your arguments. You appear to still be stuck on equating the simple removal of water to turning sediments into rock.In all your arguments, the one thing that keeps come shining through is your unquestioning dedication to a young earth. All your assertions that the standard geological explanations are nonsense are all based on your assumption of a young earth. While all the things that geology describes makes perfect sense within the actual time frame, within your vastly abbreviated YEC time frame it would not, so you pronounce it to be nonsense. Well, haven't you ever considered that maybe your YEC assumptions are the actual nonsense?YEC is theology. Theology is Man-made. Man is fraught with error and everything that Man creates would likewise be fraught with error. Therefore, theology, being Man-made, is fraught with error.You choose to take the word of error-ridden theology over observable reality.

HOW?I started studying "creation science" back in 1981 with the thought that they must have some kind of evidence since they were still around. What I found repeatedly and unfailingly is that they had absolutely no evidence whatsoever, but rather were just lying their asses off.So, then, you claim that "The young earth has been proven". SHOW US THE PROOF!!!For nearly 40 years I have been asking every creationist I could for that proof. SO SHOW IT TO US ALREADY!!!Yes, the Bible is indeed Man-made. That is the second stupidest thing you've said.However, the Creation Itself is not. The Creation Itself is indeed the true WORD OF GOD. Yet you insist on denying the true WORD OF GOD in favor of the Word of Man (ie, fallible misinterpretation by Man of something that Man had written). And, after denying the true WORD OF GOD you have the audacity of calling yourself a "creationist"? What hypocrisy!

That is a lie!You can disprove that accusation by SHOWING US THE PROOF!SHOW US THE PROOF!

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SHOW US THE PROOF!

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SHOW US THE PROOF!

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SHOW US THE PROOF!
Until then, you are just yet another lying creationist. A dishonest Chrisitian representing a religion of lies.You can very simply disprove that by presenting the proof that you claim to have yet never present.

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Back in 1985, a creationist co-worker, Charles, and I attended a debate where the creationist side was represented by the ICR's master debaters Duane Gish and Henry Morris. Gish was Charles' idol. Charles went in filled with confidence from the ICR's repeated claims of having mountains of evidence for a young earth. As we left that debate, Charles was visibly in shock: "We have mountains of evidence that would have blown the evolutionists away. Why didn't they present any of it? We have mountains of evidence ... "The sad fact is that creationists have no evidence. They do have some false claims and deceptions that work against opponents who don't know much, but Gish and Morris were up against Thwaites and Awbrey who did already know the false creationist claims very well. I noticed that same thing with a local creationist, Bill Morgan. As long as he was up against an opponent who didn't know anything, there was no way to stop him and his mocking, but the moment that he realizes that you do know something then he immediately clams up and tries to disengage as quickly as possible. Funny thing is that Bill Morgan is a staunch YEC with YEC claims being his reason for converting. Yet in about 20 years of email correspondence, he refused to answer any of my requests to discuss YEC claims.So you say that you have proved a young earth. PRESENT YOUR PROOF!Edited by dwise1, : "visibly", not "visually"