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And you show yet more dishonesty and willful ignorance.What I actually posted was:

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Once again you are simply lying Faith and showing your utter ignorance. There are oil and coal and sediment layers in ocean cores. And that is not what I say, that is reality. There are cores found on what today is land that shows in the distant past that spot was ocean. You have been show that evidence many, many times here at EvC.

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We can even see the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the sedimentary layers found in oceans. Many aeolian deposits end up on the bottom of the ocean and we do see that happening today as dust is carried by wind over the ocean and then deposited. We see it with runoff carrying sediment from the land and depositing it in the oceans.

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Come on Faith. These are things that are happening right now and have been happening for billions of years on the Earth.

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Faith once again, we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the cores, we have the sorting and we have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting.

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All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult.

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I am not repeating some establishment position but pointing to established facts.We can observe the processes. We can observe the results.Once again, we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the cores, we have the sorting and we have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting.All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult.If you actually have anything why have you NEVER been able to actually present anything related to reality?

Again Faith, we can and do observe what you call a wild assertion happening in reality.I provided one link but here is yet another that shows sedimentary layers forming on the ocean floor and describes core samples that show the process has been going on for millions of years.Look at the image at the top of the article where you can see a photo of sediment carried by the Amazon River that is then deposited on the ocean floor.From the article:

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The study comprised geochemical and palynological analyses of sediments from a hydrocarbon exploration borehole, situated offshore of Brazil, that reached more than 4.5 kilometers below sea level.

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Faith, what you call a wild assertion is simply the process that happens at every river mouth, that happens whenever wind blows material over the oceans, that happens every time something dies in the oceans.What you call wild assertions are simply reality.

Faith, stop making utterly stupid assertions.We have areas today that are bare rock, yet living things still do jess fine on the bare rock.FACT Faith. All of the models, processes, procedure, mechanisms and methods that explain the ordering of the geology and fossils are going on today just as they have been going on for billions of years and they can and are being observed.FACT Faith.Edited by jar, : they has a y

There is a reason people depict the landscapes as they do and it goes back the the fact that we have the fossils, have the geology, have the processes, methods, mechanisms, procedures and models that explain the sorting and can observe the processes, methods, mechanisms, procedures and models happening today.The answer to your question is that stuff lives in a given environment. Stuff dies in the environment where it lives. Critters modify the environment where they live and leave evidence of the modification. The critters and changes they make sometimes get covered over and preserved.Erosion and weathering happen. They both produce debris and that debris is carried by gravity, wind and rain from higher levels to lower levels.Land itself is raised and subsides. We have measured the growth of mountains and the subsidence of land.Over very long periods of time stuff gets buried.Over even longer periods the buried stuff becomes lithified.Over even longer periods of time the lithified buried material gets raised.Over even longer period of time the raised lithified material weathers and erodes and the fossils of the critters and casts of objects and evidence of the changes they made get exposed.All that is required to understand this is to acknowledge that all the evidence shows the Earth is very old, that things have lived, that the geological processes we see today also happened in the past, and that the evidence we find represents the critters and environment as it existed when they were alive.Now remember Faith, none of this is based on belief, rather it is all based on the actual physical evidence and the fact that there is no other model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would produce what is seen in reality.

Utter bullshit Mikey. The Bible contradicts itself by including two mutually exclusive flood myths all mixed up together.As soon as someone introduces the Bible as so factual or historical account the proper response is to pat them on the head and send them back to the kiddy table.

Yet a flood cannot sort layers in the order found in reality and in fact the way water does sort objects is direct evidence that what exists is NOT the result of a flood.Once again, no flood sorts objects like fossils by the specific type of critter involved or sort millions of repeating dark colored silt covered by light colored silt.The Biblical Flood is simply a really silly idea.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

Reality, facts, process, procedures, mechanism, methods, models, actual observations do have a way of piling on fantasies and nonsense.The problem is you keep making claims but never present the process, procedures, mechanism, methods or models that might actually do the things you assert happened simply because what you assert is impossible.The Biblical flood never happened.We have the fossils, the geology, the process, procedures, mechanism, methods, models, the observations and the theories that explain reality. All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the dogma of your cult.

Again, you are simply posting word salad. What tectonic activity and what is the process, procedure, model, method, mechanism involved in a tectonic event that would allow those specific intrusions between layers?Faith, you got some 'splainin to do.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin...even+t

Now Faith, you know that is just another porker. You keep asserting stuff but you do not provide evidence or model or process or procedure or mechanism that explains how your magical flood can do such things.

Again Faith, we know what the evidence for a flood looks like and a contiguous layer of sandstone ain't it.You keep making stuff up and claiming "The Flud Did it" yet you never provide the model, mechanism, method, process or procedure that would allow your flud to create the evidence that exists in reality.

But we know what flood deposits look like Faith, and what is found in reality is that there is no sign of any world wide flood.Change leaves evidence.Floods leave evidence.The Biblical Floods left no evidence and in fact what was left shows that the Biblical Floods never happened.There is no way that any flood can sort the fossils and the geology and the radiometric data and the anthrological data as that evidence exists in reality.We have the fossils, the geology, the radiology, the sociology, the anthropology and the models, methods, processes, procedures and mechanisms that do explain what exists in reality.All you have a two fables written by humans.

And so you repeat the dogma of your cult. Yet the Bible contains two different mutually exclusive accounts. Yes, that is what your cult claims. Yet we do know what evidence floods make and can even determine the type, magnitude, directionality and course of floods and the evidence each leaves behind. Yes, that is what your cult claims but no one from your cult has ever been able to explain how your flood sorts the fossils or the geology or the radiology in the order found in reality or why the civilizations that existed at the time did not get destroyed and simply continued right along never even noticing your cults flood. Yes, that is another of your assertions but it is just another example of your inability to provide the mechanism or model or method or process or procedure or any evidence to support that assertion. Yes, that is another of your assertions yet the fossil order is rather another fact of reality that you simply refuse to deal with.The fossil order is simply the locations where fossils are found along with the associated geology, paleontology and anthropology.

If that were not just another falsehood you could provide links to the posts where you provided such "proof".Sorry Faith but all you have are tales written by humans filled with factual errors, contradiction, fantasy and yet you claim to have evidence.No one has ever provided the model, mechanism, process, procedure, method for your Biblical flood to sort the geology and fossils and chemical evidence in the order found in reality.

It's a fair size chunk of limestone but only a small part of the reef itself that also includes all of the Guadalupe Mountains and Apache Mountains as well as the still buried parts of the reef.An even more interesting thing is the amount of weathered skree that is present today. We know what the weathering rate is and we know how much debris is lying on the ground and so far no one has presented an model, method, process, procedure or mechanism to explain how the reef got carried intact by the Biblical flood and how part got buried yet part exposed and how so much weathering could have happened after the Biblical flood since the debris is still sitting there and not carried away?That the Biblical flood actually happened has been just a really, really, really silly idea for at least 200 years. But fortunately the rest of the evidence shows that it never moved and in fact grew right there over millions of years, got raised up as the inland sea retreated and weathered very normally over the millions of years that passed up until today. We got the reef! We win.

Too funny Faith.Here is the Navajo Sandstone; hardly flat, certain not deposited by your fantasy flud. We have the geology, we have the model, we have the fossils, we have the reef, we have the wind deposited dunes and all you have are stories made up by ignorant humans.We win.