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You know by now that the Geological column is every single spot on the Earth. There is no geology that is not part of the Geological column.The picture is a close up of the Navajo Sandstone. And it was NOT formed by a flood. And it is part of the Geological column. And it is part of the Navajo Sandstone.And, like the reef, it is stuff that simply could not be created by, transported by, formed by, deposited by your utterly stupid flood.We have the ref and we have the Navajo Sandstone and we have the models and we have the fossils and we have the paleontology and anthropology and civilizations and we win.All you have are the fantasies of your cult.

But unfortunately once again reality shows that the Wave was not made by your imaginary flood or any flood but is made by wind blow sand in dunes. No Faith, that too is simply not true since the strata are made from real objects that show they were not created by any flood including your imaginary flood.When we look closely we see hat you are just making shit up and misrepresenting reality.Here is the Navajo Sandstone; hardly flat, certain not deposited by your fantasy flud. We have the geology, we have the model, we have the fossils, we have the reef, we have the wind deposited dunes and all you have are stories made up by ignorant humans. We win.Edited by jar, : fix reef image

Bullshit Faith. Once again you are just making stuff up.I posted a picture of the wave for you. Here it is yet again. There are classic examples of cross bedding and aeolian layers and all the things that are indicators and evidence of sand dunes. Your ignorance of the actual structure of sand dunes does not mean that other people must be as ignorant as you decide to remain.We have the geology, we have the model, we have the fossils, we have the reef, we have the wind deposited dunes and all you have are stories made up by ignorant humans. We win.

Very good Faith. You are right. Over time erosion and weathering tend to flatten the landscape.

So you claim, yet the geologists who actually know stuff say that is exactly how a sand dune looks. Your ignorance is not evidence. So you say, yet the reality remains. Weathering and Erosion tend to flatten landscapes. Gravity and water and wind carry material from high spots and deposit the material in the low spots which levels out a landscape.Once again Faith, we see those processes in action while you have nothing but the dogma of your cult.AbE: an additional example of what sand dunes look like. Edited by jar, : see AbE:

And that when first exposed there were NO hoodoos just a relatively flat plain. The hoodoos were created by the weathering and erosion of all of the millions of tons of material that was between them.

Please present a valid and evidenced explanation of how your flud could create the following.
Cross-bedding Of Sandstone Near Mt Carmel Road Zion Canyon Utah [CC BY 2.0 (Creative Commons — Attribution 2.0 Generic — CC BY 2.0 ) or Public domain], by Dr. Igor Smolyar, NOAA/NESDIS/NODC. (NOAA Photo Library: amer0038), from Wikimedia Commons[/center]Edited by jar, : fix imageEdited by jar, : fix first imageEdited by jar, : fix second imageEdited by jar, : fix fourth imageEdited by jar, : fix last image

And there is a girl in the reflection of the truck in the window mural but no girl in the truck itself. It's really an amazing amazing art composition where you can spend hours and yet never see all of it.BUT...why is that important to this thread?It's very important because while from a distance you see somethings it is only when you actually look at the details you notice the whole corner is not what it seems, the building is a wall, the bricks each have names and stories on them and also the discrepancies like the girl in the reflection that is not in the truck itself.Just as in Faith's fantasy, when you look closely at reality the straight flat lines are not straight flat lines, nowhere is there evidence of some world wide flood during the time humans existed and there are wind blown dunes that were turned to stone.Faith see the statue as reality and never sees the reality itself.

And since the hoodoos started out at surface level and they did not grow instead the stuff that was around them eroded away it is all the shit that is not around them now that is what is important and would determine time spans.

It is far more tedious to deal with the details that are reality than to simply repeat some fantasy dogma from your cult. Yes, that is certainly true. Yet EVERY detail examined over the last 200 years or so has show that there was never a global flood during the time humans existed, that the continents did not separate during the time humans existed and that the Earth and Universe are old.We have the fossils, the geology, the paleontology, the anthropology, the models, the mechanism, the process and the procedures, the reefs and the sand dunes and the White Cliffs of Dover.All you have are fantasies and stories written by ignorant humans.We win!

The debate is hopeless because there has never been a world wide flood during the time humans existed, the continents divided long before humans existed, the Earth really is billions of years old and the universe even older and anyone claiming there was a world-wide flood or that the continents divided during the time humans existed or that the Earth is young is simply absurdly wrong.

The Coconino is NOT the product of any flood; it is wind blown sand.

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The Coconino Sandstone is typically buff to white in color. It consists primarily of fine well sorted quartz grains, with minor amounts of potassium feldspar grains deposited by eolian processes (wind-deposited) approximately 260 million years ago. Several structural features such as ripple marks, sand dune deposits, rain patches, slump marks, and fossil tracks are not only well preserved within the formation, but also contribute evidence of its eolian origin.

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We have the Coconino Sandstone so we win.

More to the point, how does the silly Biblical flood transport intact cross bedded sand dunes along with animal tracks?

Percy.When one layer is deposited on another layer won't the contact between the two layers always be "knife edge" unless there is mixing? Is there even some known process where the contact between two layers could be anything other than a "knife edge"?When we look at geological boundaries don't we always find the contact between two layers is "knife edge" unless there is evidence to show why it is not "knife edge" such as we see around intrusions?Since the Coconino is not a flood deposit in the first place and in fact all the evidence shows it was wind blown sand with even surface living critter tracks preserved; what point could Faith possibly make regarding the Coconino?If she wishes to claim the layer below is the result of the flood then is that not then evidence that the Coconino and all layers above the Coconino were post flood deposits and the canyon itself also a post flood creation?Does Faith have any purpose other than obfuscation, wilful ignorance and deceit in any of the discussion relating to the boundary between the Coconino and all the layers below the Coconino?

Erosion only happens top an exposed surface Faith so layers that show erosion were surfaces that were not buried when the erosion happened.We have shown you examples of that repeatedly such as fossil river channels that were subsequently filled BUT, and a big BUT, even in those cases the contact layer between the different materials is still "knife edge".This particular segment is pointed out by the Creationists for the exact same reason they constant misrepresent the bible; it is the dishonest practice of taking things out of context.You are just continuing to try to con the rubes, palm the pea and misdirect attention from the fact that the Coconino was NOT and cannot have been deposited by any flood.The area is singled out by the Creationists sites for the very same totally dishonest reason; to misdirect attention from the fact that there has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans existed.