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A tectonic event can produce local effects. Cracks in the Hermit filled with Coconino sand could be due more to the characteristics of those rocks and the level of the tectonic force than the timing.. Now that's just the fantasy of your side. You have no idea what a worldwide Flood would have done but you don't mind acting as if you do.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The flatness is seen up close too. Like the knife-edge contact. And ALL of the strata from Cambrian to Holocene have this flatness. I don't know how anyone can look at some of the stratified mountains or hills where there is absolute straightness of strata with no disturbance whatever until the hill itself was carved out of the whole stack, and not just know that the layers are not millions of years apart from each other. I want to post pictures of these but although Percy says it's easy things have changed on Google Image and I'm unable to figure out how to do it.It doesn't matter how a given layer was supposedly laid down in what order, remember that all these layers are assigned time values so that one had to have been laid down before the next was whether there were supposedly gaps between depositions or not, but they are all timed in millions of years.

Once I know the Flood happened and that the strata were the result I also know that whatever is found IN the strata was deposited by the Flood. How it happened I don't know and don't care once I know the Flood did it, and I do.

Straight flat strata, tight contacts. These pictures alone are to my mind proof of the Flood over the absurd timescale interpretation. HOW straight flat and tight is irrelevant; they've been there over four thousand years.

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Once you absolutely know something, having an open mind is stupid. Yes glaciers too, crossbedding tooOne of the main things about these pictures is the evidence that the strata were laid down before any major disturbance occurred, and only after that were the formations sculpted by erosion or twisted by tectonism. Since I'm talking about straightness I haven't included any of the twisted ones, but it's interesting tht all the rest have become hills and mountains through erosion after all the strata were in place. SUCH a quiet planet for hundreds of millions of years, and only then so drastically eroded and disturbed, how remarkable,Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Admin, : Change links to images into images.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Admin, : Fix Namibia image.

I was responding to jar, who really shouldn't be allowed to post at all.Violence suggests wind whipped rain, not just the effects of all that water but OK violence will work. There's just no need to add the term to dramatize it. But isn't it obvious that's what I meant? I was answering your complaint that there couldn't be animal tracks during the Flood because there wouldn't have been any land left after it was stripped bare. Yes mine was a brief caricature but I don't see any appreciable difference between it and your account above. And again I feel I have to add the reminder that the rock would have been depositing in the same place as those ferns and dinosaurs and displacing their living space. Yes I know there are all kinds of ways you get the sediment buried and lithified but there's no way to get it huge and flat over many thousands of square miles without displacing living space, if its even possible at all without being deposited by the Flood.Yes I very rarely look at references for these constantly repeated challenges that don't address the main point.I do believe the Flood has been proved by actual physical evidence and that being the case there is no reason to get distracted by questions I can't answer. It will all sort itself out when the main point is recognized."Floods" don't do much of anything like the worldwide Flood would have done, but as far as sorting sediments as seen in the GC, it would depend on what sediments were available to the flood in question since floods DO sort and stack sediments in layers.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I doubt I said "gap" but if I did it isn't what I meant. What I keep trying to say is that it argues against there being millions of years difference in age between the layers no matter how or when they were deposited within their assigned time frame. In other words it is not a contact line. ABE: or a bedding plane /abeYour interpretations of bleaching or superficial dust to explain the mysterious one-inch area are a lot more reasonable than all Percy's weird stuff.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The pictures show ORIGINALLY flat and straight and tight strata. About 4500 years ago. Yet a lot of them are STILL extremely straight and flat and tight.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Thank you, I did my best to get the picture onto a page of its own but that didn't work with some of them, and even when I got it the best I could do it reverted to the whole page anyway. The one you didn't fix was the third on the top line. I will follow your instructions for Microsoft Edge next time.Bedding planes make the point I'm after as well as separated strata I think.But in the photo you have been having so much trouble with you don't even have a bedding plane beneath the Mystery Inch, and the contact line above it is what should tell you that the Inch belongs to the Hermit. But perhaps edge or Moose can make it clearer to you.

I really do not onderstand why this is a problem at all. I can't see it any other way than as the upper edge of the Hermit formation. I originally thought the difference in color was due to the angle that reflected more sunlight; but now I see it is actually a different color. But it's lower edge is very irregular, so it's not a bedding plane, and it isn't a layer unto itself. The color especially at the irregular edge looks like something on the surface, sort of thinned out, like the superficial dust Moose suggested. Or something from the contact line that bleaches it is also a possibility I guess. It's too irregular to be a bedding plane.And I don't get how you can even consider it to be part of the Coconino with that obvious contact line between them. Contact lines divide formations so it's Hermit from there down.I have to come back later so if what I've said doesn't help maybe someone else can do better.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Because it's pointed out it seems to be something special, that's all, but perhaps its being more accessible to view is the reason it's pointed out. Its tightness is the reason, because creationists see that as evidence against the millions of years attributed to strata.As for PaulK's thoughts I stick to the evidence I am sure of and don't, or shouldn't, try to answer every objection somebody raises.I don't know what Tanypteryx said but it's stupid to have an open mind when you've already established that something is true or false, such as that the Bible is God's word, or that there is evidence for the Flood.Straight strata say Flood to me, but perhaps more than that they say no millions of years to me. Unlikely? I believe the evidence shows that all the strata were laid down without any kind of disturbance to them during the laying down and that all the tectonic disturbance clearly evidentially happened afterward. Evidence.I can only conjecture that some very few animals survived the stripping of the land for some reason, that's all. Otherwise the vast majority died. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You yourself posted diagrams of the extent of four rocks across North America. Perhaps you are getting all literal about the flatness but the fact that these rocks appear flat where they are vertically exposed certainly means that they are flat in their horizontal extent, which in the cases even you posted is enormous, crossing continents. Not to mention that core samples bring up layer after layer of these flat rocks..I've never based anything I've said about the Flood on "floods" because I don't need floods for evidence and the effect of a local flood can't possible compare to the inundation of the entire planet. All I said was that local floods can do a lot of damage without anything more than quietly raining on the land for a long period, so since the worldwide Flood started with rain on the entire planet it would have done a lot of damage without being textbook violent. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There isn't one iota of reasonable doubt that the inch strip in question belongs to the Hermit, none. The location of the contact is the evidence. There is no other possibility. No it wouldn't, Percy, Moose is just speculating on why this part of the hermit, that is clearly part of the Hermit, has the different appearance it has. Dust is a possibility. If dust from the Coconino landed on a squirrel would that make the squirrel part of the Coconino?

The idea that there is some kind of fossil order is just artificial and subjective. All those animals lived at the same time, not one of them is more or less "evolved" or "modern" than any other.The Bible is unequivocally God's word and whether you see it or not I believe I've shown many times the evidence that makes the Flood the only possible interpretation against all the fantasies of Evolandia.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There is no contrary evidence to the fact that there is no sign of disturbance in the strata before it is all laid down. There are claims, there is no actual evidence.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.