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I find the failure of critical thinking at EvC in general to be well represented in the last couple of posts. Anti-conspiracy bias is no example of critical thinking, just kneejerk dogma in itself.

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In other words you hate critical thinking. Thanks for providing yet another example.

Actually Faith, we have learned a great deal since the twentieth century. But again, just because something is written in a book does not mean it is evidence of anything other than the fact it is written in that book. Yet you have never provided any evidence of any of that.The relevance to the topic is that in both areas all that you present in anecdote, testimony, not evidence.

jar complained on the thread about climate warming that my suggestion of encouraging people to plant gardens doesn't take into account how many people don't have yards for the purpose. Also complained that my suggesting that God be consulted about how to solve our planet's problems doesn't acknowledge that God brings famines and other disasters.But of course both these objections are rather silly. A lot of people DO Have yards that are just sitting unused. And besides there are some interesting tower gizmos that allow you to grow many kinds of foods in a small space, like on a balcony. They cost a couple hundred dollars and you have to buy some nutrients for the plants you grow so it may be too expensive for some but it is possible. Some things can also be grown in pots of course. And there are some unused vacant lots even within cities that could be turned into gardens with the permission of its owners or the local government, or maybe by paying some rent.As for my supposed lack of knowledge of the Bible because God brings famines and other disasters, hey, that's all God's judgment for sin, but if you set yourself to live by God's rules and trust Him and pray to Him you will find He takes care of you, leads you to solutons to problems of all kinds. He can even sustain His own through famines and every other kind of disaster if you put your trust in Him. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Lack of evidence doesn't make me wrong you know. A little human trust would go a long way.

Frako just chimed in about growing gardens on that other thread: If you had to grow ALL your own food all of a sudden, on infertile land and without water, of course you wouldn't stand a chance. You'd be dead already. But I'm talking about starting gardens as a habit that can be improved and extended over time. Step by step, little by little, as much as CAN be done. A plant here, a plant there, making compost etc. Baby steps.I have both my Canadian relatives' gardens in mind, that certainly didn't supply everything they ate but probably at least 90% of their fruits and vegetables. And again this woman Annette Larkins who is one of my latest heroes, who grows just about ALL her own food in her yard in Florida. Front and back yards, every inch covered with something edible, plus big pots of edibles on walkway and patio too. She started this decades ago, it didn't happen overnight.Again in some kind of disaster that deprives us of all sources of food a personal garden isn't going to save us, certainly not one we planted just yesterday. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I didn't say it was. I said it was being critical of thinking, including your own. According to Wikipedia, "several different definitions exist, which generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence."Does that sound like you? Aren't you the one who says that all evidence has to be seen in the context of the Bible?

jar said the God of the Bible "never fed anyone" but forgets that He led Joseph to put up stores of grain against a coming famine which fed not only all Egypt through the famine but people from other countries. He also fed Elijah when he was waiting out the famine beside a brook, and through Elisha He fed a widow and her son during a famine as well. And of course He fed a few thousand people with loaves and fishes too.

Yes, it sounds like me whether I demonstrate it here or not, or whether you recognize that I do, and it is the result of critical thinking that I know trusting in the Bible is the solution to everything.

Faith you have made it very plain that you are not a critical thinker and that you object to critical thinking. So why you try to insist that you are actually good at it I have no idea. It would be bad enough if it were just such an obvious falsehood that it’s funnier than most things posted to the humour thread. But when you make it clear that you don’t even want to be a critical thinker it is even sillier.

Fair enough. We have no way of knowing anything about you aside from what you demonstrate here. Trusting one source implicitly is the exact opposite of critical thinking.

Not if that source is God's own word, and critical thinking can lead you to that knowledge. Yes it can. There is no other source that should be trusted completely, but God's word should be.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

What you mean is, "Faith in God is better than critical thinking," just like you mean, "Faith in God is better than science," or "Faith in God is better than evidence." You keep tripping over yourself because you can't bring yourself to actually put faith in God above everything.

No I do not mean anything of the sort. Critical thinking is necessary for anything the Bible does not dictate, including extrapolations from Biblical revelations and for understanding context and details about them. Science is crucial to us except where it contradicts God's word, and evidence is always necessary for knowing anything. You all here just have a very narrow and sometimes utterly false idea of evidence.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Which explains why you're wrong about almost everything that isn't in the Bible. But then you don't pay any attention to what's actually in the Bible either. So, as I said, you have your own entirely different idea of "evidence", you have your own entirely different idea of "science" and you have your own entirely different idea of "critical thinking". Why do you use our words at all?

Who'd have thunk it, I actually agree with you for once. We could make a lot of simple changes to boost our own food production at home; with beneficial environmental effects.However, the majority of people don't own the land to make any significant impact, I think. We like to grow stuff, but we don't have a garden. We do quite well on the herb front, but our annual vegetable output would suffice for about one meal. I don't think we're having any major effect on the world of agriculture,