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Message 511 of 606 (830265)
03-26-2018 8:34 AM
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03-26-2018 8:25 AM


Re: More evidence of inability to think critically
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I find the failure of critical thinking at EvC in general to be well represented in the last couple of posts. Anti-conspiracy bias is no example of critical thinking, just kneejerk dogma in itself.
In other words you hate critical thinking. Thanks for providing yet another example.

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Message 519 of 606 (830284)
03-26-2018 12:14 PM
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03-26-2018 12:01 PM


Re: And once again Faith posts utter false nonsense.
Faith you have made it very plain that you are not a critical thinker and that you object to critical thinking. So why you try to insist that you are actually good at it I have no idea. It would be bad enough if it were just such an obvious falsehood that it’s funnier than most things posted to the humour thread. But when you make it clear that you don’t even want to be a critical thinker it is even sillier.

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Message 530 of 606 (830306)
03-26-2018 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 528 by Faith
03-26-2018 2:05 PM


Re: And once again Faith posts utter false nonsense.
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But that's simply not true
You say that, but then you go on to prove otherwise.
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The conspiracies happen to be true
In other words you do latch onto conspiracy theories. Especially when you admit that you don’t have any good evidence Message 514
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I don't follow pseudoscience, that's your own false judgment,
Really ? So what real science is being falsely called pseudoscience ? According to you.
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...and I'm not a bigot, that's just the usual kneejerk label applied by those here who ARE bigots and don't know how to think.
Anyone who knows how to think rationally - which excludes you - can see that your belief in conspiracy theories stems from your hate for the accused. That qualifies as bigotry.

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Message 533 of 606 (830313)
03-26-2018 4:00 PM
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03-26-2018 3:38 PM


Re: And once again Faith posts utter false nonsense.
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The weird thing is that the term "conspiracy theories" is used as a mere denunciation, it has no actual content, it's just a way to call someone crazy. It's a form of categorical thinking
That’s not true for a start. Try this: wikipedia
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Nobody is interested in finding out what evidence there might be for the existence of an actual conspiracy because it's immediately subsumed under "false thinking." What is that but a form of bigotry?
It’s for the promoters of such ideas to produce evidence - especially as they are often highly implausible. When they try and fail to produce anything of value - as has happened here - it’s not required of us to desperately go digging to try to prove it.
However it is a fact that you believe conspiracy theories and it is a fact that the accused always seem to be people or organisations you hate and it is a fact that you don’t have evidence to justify your belief. Now that makes a rather convincing case for your bigotry.
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I don't know what evidence I may or may not have given here about the Jesuit conspiracies, but there is a lot of evidence. There are books galore written about it. But the very idea is dismissed out of hand due to bigotry against "conspiracy theories."
You’ve given pretty much no evidence whatsoever. And the existence of books is not much better. There are books written about Jewish conspiracies but I don’t see you endorsing those, nor do I expect you to (which is the point).
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I have no idea what pseudoscience is being imputed to me. Natural foods diets? Oh well.
How about your idea that different textures automatically reduce friction ?
When you learn the fact that your liking of an idea has nothing to do with its truth - really learn it, not pay lip service - then you might stop being wrong all the time.

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Message 555 of 606 (830356)
03-27-2018 4:39 PM
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03-27-2018 3:57 PM


Re: Insulin as culprit regarding many diseases
Rosedale is another diet faddist Science Based Medicine
Controlling diabetes by controlling your diet is probably a good idea if you can get it right. Going on a heavily calorie-restricted diet - with proper supervision - might even reverse it. The rest of it is rather more suspect.
But you really have to be careful not to believe things becAuse you want to, or because the person saying them seems plausible.

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Message 562 of 606 (830374)
03-28-2018 1:22 AM
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03-27-2018 5:05 PM


Re: Insulin as culprit regarding many diseases
I may not know much - but that is why I check with people who know more.
It’s your health at stake and I would advise you to be very careful with it. If your diabetes has progressed to the point where you need insulin you are at risk.
Fair enough. This gets back to my point about intuition versus analytical thinking.
You mean your point that religion doesn’t make sense.

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Message 565 of 606 (830378)
03-28-2018 3:59 AM
Reply to: Message 564 by Phat
03-28-2018 3:26 AM


Re: Insulin as culprit regarding many diseases
That’s not really surprising to me, even though I’ve got most of my knowledge of the subject discussing things here (including research). Rosedale goes much further.
Phat, I think it would be great if you could control your diabetes with diet. But you have to be careful about it, and watch your blood sugar levels. And, seriously, stay away from the booze - both for the calories and the potential effects on your judgement.

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Message 576 of 606 (830433)
03-29-2018 9:46 AM
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03-29-2018 9:20 AM


Re: Insulin as culprit regarding many diseases
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I am a Type II Diabetic, and thankfully my pancreas still makes enough insulin to cover me should I need it.
That is WHY it is a bad sign that you have been prescribed insulin. Metformin is the first-line treatment for Type II diabetes, and there are other things they should try before using insulin. If you had a mild case you shouldn’t be using insulin at all.
I am going to say it again. Watch your blood sugar very carefully. You may not need all the insulin but letting your blood sugar get out of control can have very serious effects. You have a severe condition, and if you are going to take the harder path to managing it you have to be extra careful.
I am not saying don’t do it, I am saying do it right, because it could get much worse for you if you get it wrong.

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