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Author Topic:   Fusion Power on the way - at last ?
NoNukes
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Message 66 of 130 (740892)
11-08-2014 12:30 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Jon
11-08-2014 12:01 AM


Re: All Good Things Suck ” At First
Whenever you're ready for an honest discussion, I'll be here
So you are backing off of your claim that we can put fusion everywhere?

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NoNukes
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Message 99 of 130 (741641)
11-13-2014 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Rahvin
11-12-2014 1:34 PM


Re: All Good Things Suck ” At First
Hydrogen is not a power source - it has to be generated by cracking water...with extremely large amounts of heat, or with electricity. So we need the high-capacity power plants either way (nuclear to generate the extreme heat for that method, or just any significant power output for the electrolysis method).
Just to be clear (and I'm not saying that you erred), hydrogen is the power source for fusion. The question involved is whether the power required for isolating the correct isotopes, generating and maintaining ignition temps/pressures plus conversion losses are less than the rate at which can be energy obtained from fusion of whatever amount of hydrogen we can fuse at a time (on average).
Unless of course we uncover some cheap source of ready to burn or nearly ready to burn hydrogen.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 103 of 130 (741664)
11-13-2014 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Rahvin
11-13-2014 3:06 PM


Re: All Good Things Suck ” At First
My comment had nothing whatsoever to do with separating hydrogen isotopes for fusion.
Yes. That's why I acknowledged that you had not made an error. However your statement was sufficiently general that I think a comment was useful. Someone else might make the error. And it also provided a point to discuss fusion in general.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 130 of 130 (830826)
04-07-2018 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by ramoss
04-05-2018 6:11 PM


Re: New MIT design for mini fusion reactor
Lockheed Martin just put out a patent for part of it's fusion reactor.
What you have linked to is a patent application (i.e. not an issued patent, but an application that they hope becomes a patent.). Further, it draws priority from applications filed five years ago. I cannot tell if there is any newer technology described in the current application without making some effort to look at the older applications.
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