Sin

Sin?Fuggitaboutit, it's none of your business.

Why. Why give God a free pass?Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

That's not my tradition, it is what the Bible says. Again, how is that relevant? You are just making stuff up again. The issue is that you market a God that is the creator of all, seen and unseen yet not responsible for what that God created. You try to use silly arguments like "God created the potential for evil" yet again, that is simply not what the Bible says. And several people have mentioned the specifics over and over and over again. Creating evil; (the God in fact has so stated that He created evil). Creating beings with prior knowledge that they will be condemned. Changing the Pharaoh's mind and then punishing that Pharaoh for what the God forced the Pharaoh to do. Creating a flood that killed innocents. The list goes on and on and most are examples that the God has admitted committing already.

They are Apologists. The want to support the dogma and not what is actually written. They are marketing the god they created and the dogma they created and so must find ways to deny that the Bible actually says what it says. I am not trying to market any god or any dogma but rather simply honestly present the evidence. You can as long as you admit that you are simply marketing the god you create and the dogma you like. Exactly, you do not like the conclusions that are supported by the evidence and so just like Faith you make up your own fantasy.

Now that's just silly.

And as you said, Jesus did push the same charge and challenge. But Christianity is far more than just that. There are also the belief systems, the dogma, the ritual, the writings all the various trappings people have added over the years.What I try to show is that Christianity don't just fit on a bumper sticker. No Phat, it is not just simple humanism although that would be a great result if it actually happened.What I say is we need to be honest about what the evidence shows. No one has a clue about what might happen after death, of whether or not there is some afterlife. No one has a clue what GOD, if GOD exists is really like.BUT we can have an idea about what this life is like and about how to make this life better for as many as possible; so I suggest we should concentrate on those things where me might actually be able to speak intelligently and where might actually be able to effect outcomes.Christianity is a Path and one with some basic beliefs. But we need to recognize that belief and knowledge are not synonymous.