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All I care about concerning Walther's Law is that it shows that rising sea water forms layers.Moose said it should occur in my scenario as well as the OE scenario. I guess you disagree.

Perhaps it was "to some degree lithified" then, but if it was formed in the Flood it would only have been at most a few months before the sediment had all accumulated on top of it, and I am still putting the time of the tectonic upheaval while the Flood was at its height, the movement being the cause of the water's receding, so would you expect it to be completely dry?I'm going to assume that they weren't soft enough to be deformed, but instead the abrasion produced crumbles and chunks. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This is one of the kinds of things people say that is totally irrelevant and a waste of time. The Bible describes the Flood in general terms and mostly from the point of view of Noah's relationship with God. The specifics of how the Flood occurred are not relevant in that context, but there's nothing against trying to reconcile what little information is there with the observable physical facts today. The Bible is a guideline to many kinds of knowledge it doesn't spell out.

In comparison with millions of years I suppose the rising of the sea over forty days and nights would seem like a raging torrent, but although I'm sure there were phases of violence during the Flood I also have no reason to believe it was "raging" all the time. I picture its rising over the land as an incremental encroachment of the usual waves and tides. Perhaps I'm wrong and more violence has to be part of the picture.

Crumbling is definitely what very hard damp clay would do when abraded.

No I can't make up just anything, it has to fit with the general description of the Flood and its timeline, and I'm doing my best to find a way to fit it with the physical world as well, even in the teeth of hostile remarks by geologists.

The waves didn't reach all the way from the original coastline, edge, they only had to travel from whatever level the water had risen to.But of course since nobody was there all anyone can do is speculate and try to fit all the parts together into some kind of coherent whole.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I've had the experience many times of trying to get a clean slice of something and getting chunks and crumbles instead but coming up with the exact context is eluding me. I'm sure you've had the same sort of experience. But I keep thinking of things that aren't quite the illustration I need, such as pulling chunks of paint or plaster off with the masking tape, or pulling up chunks of the cake when trying to spread a frosting that is too stiff. I nevertheless keep picturing chunks and crumbles being abraded off some surface or other I just can't find the right image for it.

Yes I'm sure modern mainstream geology is also engaged in the job of piecing together a whole out of some parts, but since they are dedicated to the Old Earth paradigm and I'm working from the Flood model neither side is going to be seeing the evidence for the other.

I thought you knew I'm trying to explain the "erosion" at the contact, the pieces of the Supergroup you say are there etc.

That is correct but they obviously occurred in the world about the time of the Flood, and as I've been putting it together right at the end of the Flood.

I mentioned that some think they were volcanoes. I don't understand the reasoning and haven't accepted it, I'm just reporting it. Not if they didn't impinge on Noah's situation. But if most of them occurred underwater, as they would have at the end of the Flood, the water should have had some effect on them.

I've always thought it had to do with the load of sediments carried in the water. Suffocation. They're all buried in the sedimentary strata after all.Not hard to explain how sea life was restored if it was suffocated by the sedimentary load. Only some portion died anyway, and after the sediments all settled down they'd just repopulate the oceans, though judging from the prodigious amount of fossilized marine life my guess is their numbers have never reached to anything close to what they were before..Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Why on earth would they have to be "grown?" Why not just killed and carried in the water to be deposited on the land?ABE: By the way you quoted me for you and you for me in your first quote box.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

What if most of the volcanism occurred under water, say at the end of the Flood before the water receded?Back somewhere you gave a list of topics the SDA consider impossible. I'd like to raise the one about the heating of the planet from the movement of the plates. It's always asserted that the planet would become too hot for Noah etc. Since the source of the heat would be things like the Atlantic ridge's magma isn't that a rather small source of heat in comparison with the enormous volume of water to be heated?Also, when the water does heat even to a small extent and evaporates more rapidly it would bring on the ice age which would also have a cooling effect on things. Is all this taken into account?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.