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JonF
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Message 2671 of 2887 (832427)
05-03-2018 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 2667 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:11 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Except the many years you have been fighting the minuscule amount of evidence you can acknowledge and making up extra-biblical fantasies that are falsified by that rest of the evidence and are usually physically impossible.

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JonF
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Message 2672 of 2887 (832428)
05-03-2018 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2668 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:13 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
status quo interpretation has no real evidence and is definitely all in your heads.
You're confusing evidence and interpretation again.
The entire Earth and every detail is evidence.
Your quarrel should be with the mainstream interpretation.
But you are incapable of comprehending or discussing that interpretation. All you have is kindergarten name calling.

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NoNukes
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Message 2673 of 2887 (832429)
05-03-2018 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2660 by Faith
05-03-2018 11:59 AM


Re: trilobite species
Yes I did.
End this farce. Point to where you showed that chimps and humans have distinct "body plans" in ways that the various trilobites do not. I believe that you've set the bar impossibly high, but show us where you met that standard.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT

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14174dm
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Message 2674 of 2887 (832430)
05-03-2018 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 2662 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:04 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Or for sediments already deposited but still soft to fill up the channel?
No if the layers are already deposited, removing material has to cause the layers above to sag. All the weight above would push the layers straight down into the empty space.
To make the layers shown, the channels have to be eroded before the layer above is deposited. Then next layer deposited fills the channel and finishes with the flat top of the layer shown.

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Faith 
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Message 2675 of 2887 (832434)
05-03-2018 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 2670 by ringo
05-03-2018 12:20 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
I'm the only one here with the correct understanding of the Bible, but that of course means that everybody else with the weird views claims I'm the wrong one.
I just need to take my evidence to people who know what evidence is.

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Faith 
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Message 2676 of 2887 (832435)
05-03-2018 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2673 by NoNukes
05-03-2018 1:04 PM


Re: trilobite species
If you don't think my latest description suffices there's no point in digging up the other post where I discussed it.

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Faith 
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Message 2677 of 2887 (832436)
05-03-2018 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 2672 by JonF
05-03-2018 12:45 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
I see no need to answer that pack of lies.

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Faith 
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Message 2678 of 2887 (832437)
05-03-2018 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2674 by 14174dm
05-03-2018 1:05 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
it normally would cause them to sag so some other explanation is needed in this case. I say it's probably the small amount of salt and the hardness of the layers above, and the fact that softer sediment did immediately fill the channels. The really saggy places I've seen were obviously just deposited by the Flood, and there was lots of salt and the entire stratigraphic column sagged as a unit.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 2679 of 2887 (832438)
05-03-2018 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2676 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:41 PM


Re: trilobite species
If you don't think my latest description suffices there's no point in digging up the other post where I discussed it.
That's gobbledygook. If your latest description (AKA unsupported assertion) doesn't suffice the obvious thing to do is digging up the post where you discussed.
Of course, in this case we know there is no discussion to dig up.

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Faith 
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Message 2680 of 2887 (832439)
05-03-2018 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2679 by JonF
05-03-2018 3:53 PM


Re: trilobite species
I didn't say any more in the previous post than in the latest post.

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JonF
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Message 2681 of 2887 (832441)
05-03-2018 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2677 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:42 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
You see no need to answer that pack of lies? Let’s discuss.
quote:
status quo interpretation has no real evidence and is definitely all in your heads.
You're confusing evidence and interpretation again.
The entire Earth and every detail is evidence.
Your quarrel should be with the mainstream interpretation.
But you are incapable of comprehending or discussing that interpretation. All you have is kindergarten name calling.
The first three statements are simple facts.
You've just proved the fourth. Again.
Got anything substantive to say?
Didn't think so.

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NoNukes
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Message 2682 of 2887 (832442)
05-03-2018 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2676 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:41 PM


Re: trilobite species
If you don't think my latest description suffices there's no point in digging up the other post where I discussed it.
The point would be to show that you have actually presented what you claim to have presented. You did not, and that is why trying to dig it up would be pointless. Nothing you've given explains here explains why the distinction between different trilobites is qualitatively or quantitatively more than differences between a chimpanzee and a human. I'll note that besides myself that there are a couple of other posters asking you the same question and you have not offered anything substantial to them either.
You, ma'am, are a fraud.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 2683 of 2887 (832443)
05-03-2018 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2680 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:54 PM


Re: trilobite species
Your latest post was an unsupported (and false) assertion. If there's nothing more in your previous post, then your previous post was another unsupported (and false) assertion. So you know you haven't discussed human versus chimp body plans. Your claim to have done so is a deliberate lie. Looks as if you did that to avoid revealing your ignorance and inability to support your claims any more than you already have.

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PaulK
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Message 2684 of 2887 (832445)
05-03-2018 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2683 by JonF
05-03-2018 4:08 PM


Re: trilobite species
But Faith’s argument is simple really.
Trilobites all have the same body parts, even if they are different shapes and sizes, so they must be the same species. Chimps and humans have the same body parts but they are different shapes and sizes so obviously they are not only different species but different Kinds.

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jar
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From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 2685 of 2887 (832447)
05-03-2018 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 2675 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:38 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes:
I'm the only one here with the correct understanding of the Bible, but that of course means that everybody else with the weird views claims I'm the wrong one.
Yet time after time you have demonstrated that you do not believe the Bible says what it really says and prefer the dogma of your Cult.
Faith writes:
I just need to take my evidence to people who know what evidence is.
So once again Faith says she will run away.

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