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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You demonstrate your own depth of ignorance of the Bible and how it is to be understood when you say such things. You may have literally "read" it but obviously without a clue as to what it really means.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: You demonstrate your own depth of ignorance of the Bible and how it is to be understood when you say such things. You may have literally "read" it but obviously without a clue as to what it really means. So says Faith who constantly misrepresents what is actually in the Bible.
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Apart from becoming more aware of the differences, how did they in any way become more like God? And do we even have a clue as to how God was? All we have are human stories. Genesis has God give an explicit and direct answer to that question. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Only according to your illiterate way of reading it.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
"Us" is the speaker,
so who is "us"?quote:- i.e. the Lord God - and whomsoever He was speaking to. The text implies that they were His equals. An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Don't confuse literate with literal. But of course, your view of the Bible is neither. Only according to your illiterate way of reading it.An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Only according to your illiterate way of reading it. How is honestly reporting what is actually written illiterate? The issue Faith is one of honesty. The Bible is a creation of man, the very Fallen Mankind you claim exists. There are factual errors, contradictions and even absurdities in the Bible Stories. There is no single version of "The Bible" that is universal to Christianity, not even some universal Canon. There is no single purpose or even thread that runs through all of the various stories that get included in Bibles. The Bible is a collection of disparate and unconnected writings selected, edited, redacted and even revised by unknown authors, writers, editors, redactor and committee of Canon. Christianity is a human creation, part theological but primarily political in nature. It only makes sense to try to understand the evolution of the various pieces parts that make up the various dogmas of the various chapters of Club Christian.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: So because the book says so, you would conclude that at least in that case, God considered some audience somewhere as his equals??? You could start a whole new religion with that kind of thinking! - i.e. the Lord God - and whomsoever He was speaking to. The text implies that they were His equals.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: So because the book says so, you would conclude that at least in that case, God considered some audience somewhere as his equals??? You could start a whole new religion with that kind of thinking! No Phat, you would conclude that the authors of the stories believed that the Gods were equally real and held sway over their subjects. This is basic Phat, that is the whole point of the Exodus story. There one God takes ownership of a peoples and says that no other god should have preference with that people.
quote: Edited by jar, : fix sub-title
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Why would you reject what the Book says in favour of what some goober says?
So because the book says so, you would conclude that at least in that case, God considered some audience somewhere as his equals??? Phat writes:
A religion that actually pays attention to its Book? You could start a whole new religion with that kind of thinking!An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wrong on all counts.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wrong as usual. (I've learned from you that brief one liners are very effective.)
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
So you're saying that confusing literal with literate is a good thing? Wrong as usual.An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wrong as usual.
Hey this is fun.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
I note that there have been no substantive comments on my Message 66 describing both original sin and the idea of the fall as evil concoctions of our shamans' fevered minds.
We can be thankful for the Enlightenment! It freed many of us from this ancient evil.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr. |
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