Creation

The balloon analogy can certainly be understood by a 5th grader.What questions have you asked me that I haven't answered?

1 acre = 43,560 square feet.
15 acres = 653,400 square feet.
Deck area of the ark = 300 cubits x 50 cubits x 3 decks = 45,000 square cubits.
653,400 square feet / 45,000 square cubits --> 14.52 square feet = 1 square cubit - i.e. 1 cubit = 3.81 feetChecking my math:
300 cubits long x 3.81 feet per cubit = 1143 feet long (compare aircraft carrier USS Enterprise CVN-65 = 1123 feet long)
50 cubits wide x 3.81 feet per cubit = 190.5 feet wide
1143 feet x 190.5 feet = 217741.5 square feet per deck x 3 decks = 653224.5 square feet total deck space
653224.5 square feet / 43560 square feet per acre = 14.99 acresSo... are you looking at a fourteen-foot-tall Noah?

No, you made up something. The Bible says that the ark had three stories (Genesis 6:16), i.e. no "bottom" or "main deck".And "rooms" are not 2' high. It's true that you can stack cages but then you should be talking about cubic feet, not square feet. You could have thousands of "acres" if you count the cages small enough for an ant - but the figure would be meaningless.Of course the biggest problem is that a wooden boat built to even the smallest cubit would probably break up. Feel free to build one and prove me wrong.

You can't count the roof as storage space. Anything up there would get wet. There's no reason why the bottom can't be the bottom deck.When somebody says three stories they don't mean five. The difference is between what it doesn't say and what it does say. If you claim to believe the Bible, you shouldn't be embellishing. Sorry, you don't get to use fantasy wood, only real wood - relatively short lengths. And you don't get to pass the buck either. Get the creationists to fund it. That's what I'm saying. When you say a house is two thousand square feet, you're not counting the area of every shelf.

Duh, didn't you count it as a separate level? It says it was three stories.It rained for forty days, not forty-two. There were ten commandments, not twelve. Jesus had twelve disciples, not fourteen. He fed five thousand people, not seven thousand, with five loaves and two fishes, not seven loaves and four fishes. Nobody's uimposing a "limit' on any of those numbers but those are the numbers. You can't just change them arbitrarily. I'm not an expert on boatbuilding but I'd recommend putting it above the water line. other than that. it doesn't make much difference where you put it. Non sequitur. In Message 866 you said:

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This gives you a bottom, a first story, a second story, a 3rd story and a main deck.

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Separating the bottom and the main deck from the three stories is an embellishment. That's a fantasy. I'm not requesting. I'm challenging you or any other creationist to build the thing if you think it can be built.

You don't see the irony in defining someting that is inherently indefinite?

That's exactly what it means. We define our words for our purposes. Is your God so puny that He needs to use our definitions?

You said, "We define it as infinite or unending." Doesn't "we" include you?And the dictionary defines eternity as infinite or unending time. I thought you said that time doesn't exist.But clearly you don't see the irony. I was making a joke about trying to define something that is, "by definition", indefinite.

What does that have to do with what I said?

I asked what God has to do with our definitions of words.

Existence is not a thing; it's a property of things. Like red is not a thing. You can't have a big bag of red. Red might be a property of what's in the bag but red itself is not a thing. And you can not have a bag of existence. What you have in the bag may or may not have the property of existence - it may or may not exist - but you can't say it "is" existence. Since you have existence confused with things that exist, I don't expect you to make any sense. Well, that's how we measure anything. We measure distance with distance, comparing an unknown distance - e.g. the length of a two-by-four - with a known distance - e.g. the length of a yardstick. We measure an unknown time with a known time - e.g. the period of a pendulum's swing.

I'm only speaking for those of "us" who do. If you want to make up your own definitions, "we" can't stop you, but don' t expect to be taken seriously either.

The creationists say it is, so you can argue with them.

So far, you haven't demonstrated that you know anything. Pick a topic and stick to it.

yes, creationists do grasp at straws. Do you have anything to contribute except hot air? Pick a subject and discuss it.