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ringo
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Message 646 of 653 (834162)
05-31-2018 12:38 PM
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05-31-2018 12:16 PM


Re: Why do we have so few creationists
Phat writes:

The point is that you have no right to claim the default position


Of course we do. What other default can there be but reality?

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Tanypteryx
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Message 647 of 653 (834163)
05-31-2018 12:39 PM
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05-31-2018 12:16 PM


Re: Why do we have so few creationists
The point is that you have no right to claim the default position

In a discussion of a science topic, it seems perfectly legitimate to claim that the purpose of science is to model our understanding of the natural world as close to reality as possible.

I'm puzzled by your reasoning that reality is not the default position.

Edited by Tanypteryx, : spelling


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 648 of 653 (834164)
05-31-2018 1:41 PM
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05-31-2018 12:39 PM


Re: Why do we have so few creationists
Can not A'Tuin be both male and female?

Would the world not be equally stable were there only three elephants?

Could A'Tuin not be a whale?


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Message 649 of 653 (835523)
06-24-2018 9:12 AM


This needs to stop
This post by PaulK Message 864 has gone over the line into sheer personal attack after tending in that direction over the last few posts. I followed suit unfortunately though not to his degree of total lack of content:

Shouldnt you be mortifying your sins rather than indulging them ?
But thanks for proving my point about your lack of honesty.

This kind of nastiness on PK's part is standard with him lately and it makes "debate" with him nearly intolerable.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 650 of 653 (835526)
06-24-2018 9:29 AM
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06-24-2018 9:12 AM


Re: This needs to stop
Faith needs to stop repeating the same old lies and whining when caught at it.
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AdminPhat
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Message 651 of 653 (835527)
06-24-2018 9:54 AM


Summations on Motley Flood Topic
Looks like it is time to close that topic. Both of you are guilty, however.

  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
  • Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation.
  • The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

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    Faith
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    Message 652 of 653 (835529)
    06-24-2018 9:59 AM
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    06-24-2018 9:54 AM


    Re: Summations on Motley Flood Topic
    What am I guilty of? Go read through that sequence of posts. And what PK just said on this thread alone deserves a suspension.

    I don't think going into Summation Mode is going to solve anything. There are other conversations going on.


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    Phat
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    Message 653 of 653 (835534)
    06-24-2018 10:38 AM
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    06-24-2018 9:59 AM


    Re: Summations on Motley Flood Topic
    I read the topic. I stand by my summation. I respect your methodology as much as I respect secular science, but it must be pointed out how the two approaches differ. I believe that the cartoon describes it quite well.

    You have a right to voice your methodology as do your opponents.

    My hope is that everyone gets better at expressing themselves and stops the personal attacks (and reactions to such attacks)

    Hopefully, we here at EvC are learning to coexist. Nobody is being singled out or banned (or even suspended) because we all have earned our place here at EvC. It is unfortunate that you do not have too many other creationists to help you make your case. Usually, I enjoy reading what you have to say.


    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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