Religion or Science - How do they compare?

Why should they?

Isn't that better than taking your morality from some alien overlord whose agenda might not be good for us at all?

Well, no. You said yourself that we have different ideas of "good" depending on what works for us. In reality, there is no absolute good that works in every situation. Why substitute an imposed "good" that might not be good for us at all?

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Well, an accident is something that you wouldn't do over again if you had the chance. A surprise is something you didn't even know you wanted until you got it.
-- Roseanne

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Matthew 25:31-46. Sheep v. goats.

That doesn't make a bit of sense. How can there be a choice where you can't choose?

Here's an apple and an orange. Pick one. Then I'll give you whichever one I please.Now you. Set up a scenario where you're offered a choice but you don't have the ability to choose.

We all know that intelligence evolved, don't we? By attributing intelligence to your God you're diminishing Him to an evolved being.

I didn't say consciousness. I said intelligence. It's the same implication as saying that God is male; maleness implies reproduction. Intelligence implies the ability to learn which implies the ability to make mistakes.

Yes, based on dogma - but I'm asking if you have any examples that make sense."Satan" is just a metaphor for us. What's an example of a choice where we don't get to choose?

Nobody said they did. Nobody called it a choice that you don't get to choose.You claim there are choices that we don't get to choose. Not including questions that people don't want answered like, "What should I wear?" give us an example. The fact that it's so difficult to explain the question to you should be a clue that the concept is nonsensical.

You got it right this time. Theology is the study of ideas about God, not the study of God.And you seem to understand that some ideas about God are wrong - e.g. the idea that God wants His followers to kill non-Muslims.So if some ideas about God are wrong, it's possible for all ideas about God to be wrong - same as all ideas about unicorns are wrong.

You don't know that. That's just something you imagine. If I thought some entity had had a significant part in creating the world as we know it, that entity would be an alien species of some sort. They would have technology unknown to us but they would be biological in some way. I see no reason to imagine an entity with no physical, measurable or verifiable form. That's just an excuse for believing in something that isn't verifiable. He has been so far.

The irony is that the obviously "fallen" mind - i.e. the one that isn't working right - is yours.

What either of us believes or doesn't believe is not relevant. What's relevant is your behaviour and your behaviour doesn't suggest any special "understanding". Your insistence on being wrong about everything - to the point of openly defying reality - is evidence that the whole concept of "fallen minds" is garbage.