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Author Topic:   The Evolution Theory is a Myth Equivalent to the Flat Earth Theory
PaulK
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Message 223 of 248 (837158)
07-28-2018 6:27 AM
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07-28-2018 4:28 AM


Re: Bad form, false premises
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With empty appeals to "you’ve failed" and "fatal faults" you cannot refute an argument.
I was simply repeating established facts. Your argument has already been refuted. I don’t need to do it again.

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PaulK
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Message 228 of 248 (837203)
07-28-2018 1:41 PM
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07-28-2018 1:31 PM


Re: Bad form, false premises
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Yes, from the very beginning of this thread I have been reading these comments that my argument was refuted. But you know what? Nobody and I mean NOBODY has even addressed its fundamental premise, which is P4: "The appearance of a biological function that is coded with only one average eukaryotic gene requires 10^405 variations.
Actually I have refuted that. Even if your assumption about the limit of deformation is correct (and it very likely isn’t) that is still the probability of getting one specific function, not the probability of getting a new function. In fact there may even be different ways of getting the same function you have not considered.
But the logical problem, that that premise is inadequate to prove your argument is far more serious. And you have yet to adequately address that.
(I will also note that it is for you to support your premises. We do not have to accept them by default.)

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Message 234 of 248 (837235)
07-29-2018 4:52 AM
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07-29-2018 4:27 AM


Re: Bad form, false premises
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What did you "refute"? That deformation tolerance of 50 percent is empirically based? How did you do that? By showing that 50.5 percent is the correct value? You have refuted nothing. You just keep repeating the same old nonsense.
If you bothered to read on you’d have seen the refutation.
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There is no difference between specific function and new function, since in order to get from old function to new function you need "different-then-old", a.k.a. specific, arrangement of particles. In other words, "function" is simply the name for a group or groups of particles, when they fit certain environment within or outside of an organism.
Now you are just babbling nonsense. Obviously there must be more arrangements that will perform some useful function than there are that will perform one specific function. Different functions will generally require different arrangements.
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With empty appeal to "premise is inadequate" you cannot refute an argument.
Again this refers to an already established fact. Your argument is logically invalid. And obviously so. The fact that you refuse to see it is your problem.
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Also, arguments are either valid or invalid, and have nothing to do with whether you personally accept them or not.
And your argument is obviously invalid, as I already pointed out.
You cannot fix the problems in your argument with arrogant and irrational bluster.

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