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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2418 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
People (who know me) are so sick of me complaining about how 70% of the world outside of India and China belong to two religions (Christianity and Islam), so I would get those two. (My complaints about people being brainwashed cause me to talk about the "in" & "popular" things like religion)
My endless complaints about Christians and Muslims in the former India (which includes modern post independence India, plus Pakistan, Bangladesh, and - far enough back - Afghanistan) reproducing like jack rabbits while the Hindus are shrinking (down to 60% today compared to 82% 100 years ago), cause me to know several of the others. I also constantly complain about nations like Indonesia (and Vietnam, Philippines, etc.) having Christian minorities that have a reputation for eating 1000 times more dogs (yes dogs!) than the non-Christians combined. (just ask street vendors who the customers are who buy up the dogs, and also ask the Western visitors about the post Sunday school clubbings of live dogs in the church backyards while the Asian church-going kids are traumatized about the whole thing before the Sunday meal is served to worshippers). I got most of them (including the fast growing African nation Nigeria).
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1050 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
While the biggest countries in the world was not something surprising to me - I only recently learned the population distribution among US states, and this did surprise me. I would have guessed the top three - but I never realised how large are the differences in population between them. The names of US states are of course all very familiar, and places like Montana look huge on the map, so to learn that a lot of states have negligible population was a bit of a shock.
No fewer than 11 states have a population smaller than the city where I live. According to citypopulation.de I live in the 377th largest urban area in the world, so not exactly a vast metropolis. California, Texas and New York collectively make up almost a quarter of the US population.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And all three, California, Texas and New York have vast areas that are relatively under populated. California is filling up fast though.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I didn't know all the European countries (except Russia, but it's also in Asia) were so small in population. While I hadn't given this much thought, I was aware, and I suspect you were als, that the size of the European Union is approximately equal to the size of the United States. Approximating the biggest countries as roughly (France, Spain, UK, and Italy) gives the reasonable estimate for those countries to be about 60-80 million folks. So not all that surprising that they don't crack the top ten. I could not have put Nigeria or Pakistan on this list. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
My endless complaints about Christians and Muslims in the former India (which includes modern post independence India, plus Pakistan, Bangladesh, and - far enough back - Afghanistan) reproducing like jack rabbits while the Hindus are shrinking (down to 60% today compared to 82% 100 years ago), cause me to know several of the others. What is your complaint, exactly? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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He seems upset that Hindus chose style and technique over frequency when it came to sex.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2418 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
quote: Hinduism (and its off shoots) is perhaps the world's most tolerant religion. Will Durant said that the Islamic invasion of India was perhaps the most bloody in history. No Hindu rule for over 1000 years till the mid 20th century. When Hindus finally gained control of India in 1947, (the first Leader of newly Independent India)Nehru came up with the idea to use a symbol of Ashoka (who had inscriptions in Greek and Aramaic planted throughout the nation's western regions which were an "EDICT" declaring the blessings that come from having people of diverse religions in the nations of the world) on the nations flag.
quote: quote: Nehru rejected the Divine Right of Kings. Divine right of kings - Wikipedia
quote: Indira Ghandi was the daughter of Nehru. Indira Gandhi - Wikipedia She married a Zoroastrian. Feroze Gandhi - Wikipedia And she was Prime Minister of India (no big deal to the Hindu population of India that a FEMALE married a Zoroastrian!) She was killed by Sikh nationalist (Sikh bodyguards conspired to kill her). Sikhs are a minority religious group that make up about 3% (I think) of the population. Yet the Hindu majority voted for a Sikh to lead the nation for 9 years (2005-2014).
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2418 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
quote: Outside of India and China, Christians are 45% of the worlds population. Yes, 45%. Muslims and Christians are over 75% (closer to 80%) Tell if my numbers are wrong. And these are not tolerant religions relative to the smaller religions of Hinduism and Buddhism (and they are going to be smaller in number in 2050, the latter will shrink from 7% today down to 5% mid-century). Netanyahu said that China doesn't have the stink of anti-Semitism like so many other places. No examples of anti-Semitism. Many religions were able to flourish in areas with Hindu and Buddhist populations (and not much anywhere else once Christianity and Islam were firmly established post 700 CE)
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Percy Member Posts: 22490 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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It's sort of a flow of consciousness style...
--Percy
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2418 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Here is wife of the grandson of Nehru.
Maneka Gandhi - Wikipedia She was married to a man(Nehru's grandson)who was half Hindu/Zoroastrian and she herself had a Sikh mother and father. (this man was her husband) Sanjay Gandhi - Wikipedia Her husband was the son and brother of successive Prime Ministers of India(Indira Gandhi was her husband's mother and when she was assassinated , his only brother Rajiv Gandhi became PM) LOOK at this soul though
quote: From her husband's Wikipedia page I linked above
quote: Remember that Indira Gandhi was the Prime Minister of India (14 January 1980 — 31 October 1984)and the daughter of the first Prime Minister Nehru. Indira had just 2 sons. One was Rajiv Gandhi who was Prime Minister from 31 October 1984 — 2 December 1989. Sanjay was the other son of Indira. Maneka was Sanjay's wife. Could this lady be considered one of the reasons that Hindus have swung strongly in the direction of (almost)being a majority vegetarian religion? (Hindus are under 80% of India but the nation is 33%-41% vegetarian while it was only (at most) 15% vegetarian during the 18th century). India has a humane and tolerant spirit. Zoroastrians are an outside religion (though not seen as quite as foreign, and certainly not as hostile to India, like Muslims and Christians are seen) and very tiny yet there was a slight Zoroastrian strain in the 1980s leadership. What other nation elects religious minorities? They even elected a Prime Minister (2005-2014) who was a member of a small minority religion that had members that murdered the female Prime Minister just 21 years earlier. And nevermind the fact that a female was elected leader (and one who married a Zoroastrian, and do remember that females marring a male of a different religion is seen as very wicked to most of the worlds religious people - especially Christians and Muslims). The Hindu religion is enlightened and though it is a religion with shrinking numbers of followers, it will be the majority religion in the nation that will have the world's largest population (in 2022). A positive sign for the world. Let us be honest about it. The national hero seems to be the pacifist & anti-nationalist Mahatma Gandhi , who happens to be an admirer or both Asoka and the Sermon on the Mount.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
LamarkNewAge writes:
Can we be honest in 25 words or less? Let us be honest about it.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2418 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Here is a symbol of the tolerance enshrined into and a part of the fiber of the very nation India.
Nehru selected the Ashoka Chakra to be on the flag. It has really does have roots all the way back to Ashoka.
quote: The State Emblem it is. And the Lion Capital of Ashoka needs explanation (later).
quote: The Lion Capital of Ashoka comes up again.
quote: Now this Lion Capital of Ashoka is explained.
quote: This Chakra (of Ashoka)design was placed on top an actual PILLAR BY ASHOKA IN 250 B.C.E. in Sarnath. Here we have an actual design from the rule of Ashoka! On top a pillar that had his edicts! Here is an edict in Asoka's own words engraved as a commandment.
quote: The fact is that tolerance is part of the very soul of India. The largest nation in the word in LESS THAN 5 YEARS.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Hinduism (and its off shoots) is perhaps the world's most tolerant religion. Not toward Christians. I know an Indian pastor who says they have been increasing their persecutions recently. He's sent me videos of Christians lying injured and dead in the streets, bandaged up in the hospitals, a woman stripped naked being chased through the streets. Hindus are fine with any religion that just adds another god to their millions, same as the old Roman paganism of the Caesars, but not at all happy if the religion is exclusivistic. Here's Wikipedia onViolence Against Christians in India Anti-Christian violence in India refers to religiously-motivated violence against Christians in India.[1] Violence against Christians has been seen by the organization Human Rights Watch as a tactic used to meet political ends.[1] The acts of violence include arson of churches, conversion of Christians by force and threats of physical violence, sexual assaults, murder of Christian priests and destruction of Christian schools, colleges, and cemeteries.[2][1] In August 2017, the US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) ranked India’s persecution severity at Tier 2 along with Iraq and Afghanistan.[3] In the past six years,[when?] India has risen from No. 31 to No. 11 on Open Doors' World Watch List, ranking just behind Iran in persecution severity.[4][5] You should differentiate between Roman Catholicism and Christianity in general if you are talking about their propensity to violence. The RC Church is famous for its Inquisition and other forms of violence. And of course so is Islam.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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Someone would have had to have been ignoring the news in the last couple of decades to not be aware of the Hindu-on-Muslim violence in India. The anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat a decade and a half ago was a major news story, and the news constantly has stories of Hindu-on-Muslim riots and lynchings.
Currently, "cow vigilantism" is a big thing in India, where a non-Hindu, usually a Muslim, is accused of slaughtering a cow and lynched. Christans have also been victims of Hindu extremist violence, as Faith has mentioned. - And of course much of the terrorism in Sri Lanka is due to Buddhist extremists, and in Chinese history Buddhist and Taoists were guilty of violence against each other. And let's not forget the warrior samurai caste of Japan was predominantly Buddhist; shinto was considered the religion of the peasants. (This was, ironically, turned around in the historical mythology promoted by the Showa era militarists). - Every religion has the seeds (and a history) of violent intolerance. Every religion has the seeds (and a history) of peaceful coexistence. Whether any religion is "peaceful" or "violent" has more to do with the socio-economics of a particular region than it does of a broad and diverse religion. That is why every group should be judged on its particular teachings, not on the religious label put on it. Every person should be judge on their particular actions, not on the religious label it chooses.Oh, God! Pride of Man, broken in the dust again! -- Quicksilver Messenger Service
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I have read your post and I still have no idea what your complaint is about.
Hinduism (and its off shoots) is perhaps the world's most tolerant religion. Okay... Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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