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jar
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Message 76 of 353 (837941)
08-11-2018 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Faith
08-11-2018 7:45 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
Actually Faith Mohammad's specific instruction was for Universal education and literacy.
Without Islam we would not be holding this conversation.

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Message 77 of 353 (837942)
08-11-2018 8:00 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by jar
08-11-2018 7:58 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
Interesting then that I didn't find any evidence of that on my google trek.

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jar
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Message 78 of 353 (837944)
08-11-2018 8:03 AM
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08-11-2018 8:00 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
Faith, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, ...
What are they?
Why is the first the most important of the series.
Basics Faith, stuff every elementary school kid should learn.

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Faith 
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Message 79 of 353 (837945)
08-11-2018 8:13 AM
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08-11-2018 8:03 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
You might try addressing the actual topic instead of proliferating rabbit trails.

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jar
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Message 80 of 353 (837947)
08-11-2018 8:50 AM
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08-11-2018 8:13 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
Faith writes:
You might try addressing the actual topic instead of proliferating rabbit trails.
I am addressing the actual topic by providing actual evidence.
What is in the post you are replying to are Arabic Numbers.
Islam gave us the concept of Universal Education, Science, the Scientific Method, Zero, Arabic Numbers, Analytic Geometry, Algebra; all of the things on which modern Western Civilization is based.
And in fact, all of those things were the product of immigration, bringing together people from all over the Islamic world to share ideas.
Immigration brings us new ideas, new perspectives, new genes and new cultural possibilities.

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Faith 
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Message 81 of 353 (837949)
08-11-2018 9:04 AM
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08-11-2018 8:50 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
That is a lot of hot air that proves precisely nothing about universal education as an Islamic innovation.

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jar
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Message 82 of 353 (837950)
08-11-2018 9:29 AM
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08-11-2018 9:04 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
Faith writes:
That is a lot of hot air that proves precisely nothing about universal education as an Islamic innovation.
Except for a few facts Faith.
First the topic is about whether immigration is good or bad.
Second, the post you replied to covered even more than just the fact that Muhammad mandated that all learn to read and write.
quote:
I am addressing the actual topic by providing actual evidence.
What is in the post you are replying to are Arabic Numbers.
Islam gave us the concept of Universal Education, Science, the Scientific Method, Zero, Arabic Numbers, Analytic Geometry, Algebra; all of the things on which modern Western Civilization is based.
And in fact, all of those things were the product of immigration, bringing together people from all over the Islamic world to share ideas.
Immigration brings us new ideas, new perspectives, new genes and new cultural possibilities.

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Faith 
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Message 83 of 353 (837951)
08-11-2018 9:32 AM
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08-11-2018 9:29 AM


Re: No Faith, Universal Education was a concept of Mohammad.
Lot of assertions, no evidence and as I said I found none on my google search.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 84 of 353 (837952)
08-11-2018 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by NoNukes
08-11-2018 12:49 AM


Ingraham a victim of the usual PC smear campaign
I see that Laura Ingraham is complaining that she has been treated to the same PC smear campaign I've been talking about. So what else is new? The Left absolutely cannot think but has a commitment to spewing character assassination hatred instead of discussion anyway.
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He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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jar
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Message 85 of 353 (837953)
08-11-2018 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
08-11-2018 9:36 AM


Re: Ingraham a victim of the usual PC smear campaign
Yup, poor wittle baby loves to whine about how she's so mistreated.

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ringo
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Message 86 of 353 (837957)
08-11-2018 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Faith
08-10-2018 6:45 PM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
Faith writes:
There wouldn't have been any money to be "kept" because they would have paid the debt if they'd had it.
There was labour, which is the same as money for most purposes. When their debts were forgiven, they were free to use their labour for their own (more productive) purposes, instead of making some fat cat even fatter.
Faith writes:
There are hybrid forms of socialism that are less totalitarian but the tendency of socialism is always toward totalitarian oppression in the hands of government.
You should make up your mind whether you're ranting against socialism "in general" or against just the totalitarian kind of socialism. When you said, "We don't need more socialists," which kind did you mean?
Faith writes:
It's the complete opposite of the concepts of personal freedom so hard-won over the centuries before the US Constitution aimed to establish such freedoms as a principle of governance.
On the contrary, it seems to be the lefty-types who are pushing for more freedom for blacks, women, homosexuals, etc.
Faith writes:
But as John Adams and others of the Founders said in various ways, our system of government can only work well for a religious and moral people, "it is wholly inadequate for the governing of any other."
They may have been right - but the kind of religion that you preach is thoroughly immoral.
Faith writes:
Well, we've been losing our character as a "religious and moral people" for quite some time now, well beyond the point where such freedoms can be safely granted and the corporate federation still hold together....
Y'see, you're the one who is saying we can't afford to "safely" grant freedoms any more. The real danger of totalitarian oppression is from your bunch.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 87 of 353 (837958)
08-11-2018 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Faith
08-10-2018 7:10 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Faith writes:
Incorrectly used by the usual suspects here though, since not one word of that applies rightly to me.
It's better to be called a bigot than to be one. It's better to admit being a bigot than to deny it.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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NoNukes
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Message 88 of 353 (837964)
08-11-2018 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
08-11-2018 9:36 AM


Re: Ingraham a victim of the usual PC smear campaign
I see that Laura Ingraham is complaining that she has been treated to the same PC smear campaign I've been talking about. So what else is new?
Rolling on the floor laughing! You smeared yourself.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT

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Message 89 of 353 (837965)
08-11-2018 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Faith
08-11-2018 1:24 AM


Re: Multiculturalism is a Satan-inspired weapon for destroying Christian culture
You are a bigoted comrade leftist that cannot tolerate anyone who actually thinks rather than toeing the party line.
And you are a bigoted idiot who cannot understand that her own remarks about leftists and immigrants she does not like, are simply intolerance. Tolerating intolerance is simply not possible. You are of course, free to be a bigot and to express your views. But you are not free to escape criticism for those views.
And that is the truism you will never understand. But it is the essence of what free speech really means.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT

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jar
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Message 90 of 353 (837968)
08-11-2018 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Faith
08-11-2018 1:24 AM


Re: Multiculturalism is a Satan-inspired weapon for destroying Christian culture
Faith writes:
Multiculturalism is a Satan-inspired weapon for destroying Christian culture
The Christianity that might get destroyed by multiculturalism is simply a pathetic perversion of every good thing about Christianity; a worthless caricature of what Jesus message was and quite honestly, worthless and without merit already. It is a pathetic joke; a cult opposed to honesty, worshiping ignorance and with no contact with truth or reality.
You are of course free to try to market something that silly but don't be surprised when folk simply laugh.

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