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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined:
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
quote: Study the Boxer Rebellion. It was a 1899 rebellion against Christian power. The Chinese nationalists that fled to Taiwan were (brutal) Christians. China was led by a Christian from 1928 till the overthrow, and Chiang Kai-shek ruled Taiwan till 1975. But almost 10% of China was ruled by a Christian king in the mid 1800s. Taiping Heavenly Kingdom - Wikipedia
quote: I do see the "end times" themes as already in the consciousness. And Christians had influence centuries earlier than the "end times" kingdom of 1850 . Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Rahab was not "raptured" because she lived while the Canaanites were slaughtered?
If God kills you by taking you to heaven, then you are raptured? I found a timeline of the grandchildren of Adam. http://www.josephineelia.com/...uploads/2011/03/timeline.jpg Enoch was born in the year 622 after creation (AC) He was "raptured" 987 AC. Noah was born 1056 AC. So there was 70 years between righteous Enoch leaving Earth and Noah being born. Since the 490 days in Daniel are interpreted (by Christian prophecy folks today)to be years, and the last week is seen as "7 years" (by the same Christian prophecy people), then what to make of a raptured Enoch being gone for 70 years before the birth of Noah? Do you consider Methuselah and Lamech to have been evil since they were not raptured and had to live through this 70 year period? Methuselah might have even died in the flood (the math allows for him drowning in the Flood , dropping dead just before the Flood, or perhaps he was raptured too?)
quote: According to AIG, A godly man wasn't raptured. (they don't comment on the rapture part mind you) Jude said Enoch was a prophet. He "prophesied". But fundamentalists have always hated the fact that Jude used a Greek quote that matched the Ethiopian Enoch (or I Enoch) Here is the same Answers in Genesis source I linked to above.
quote: Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, Behold, the Lord comes... This "inspired" word of Jude (though Jude says Enoch HIMSELF said it as a prophet) will link Enoch to modern day prophecy stuff. (Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the Greek text of Enoch, found only in Jude, is considered "inspired" but all the Aramaic, Hebrew, and Semitic Ethiopian quotes don't count as "inspired" because they aren't part of some "sacred European scripture"?) That and his "rapture". Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
The rapid expansion of Christianity, in the 18th century, seemed to inaugurate the age of genocide.
But it wasn't just "Manifest Destiny" that brought the bloody state of affairs. MILLENNIALISM played its role. Here is a Christian who went on to become King of China. Hong Xiuquan became a Christian after a few things happened.He read Protestant evangelical tract THEN some time later, he had visions. Hong Xiuquan - Wikipedia He ending up taking over a large part of China. He had visions ever after.
quote: The British and French helped the Chinese overthrow this rapidly expanding Kingdom. This man had visions every step of the way.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Here was the Christian group he founded.
From: God Worshipping Society - Wikipedia
quote: Clearly the Prophecy and End Times movement is a bloody business. I remember first reading about this kingdom (decades ago) in some official 7th Day Adventist book. Saturday seemed to be the day of worship with this kingdom. A sincere Christian movement that nevertheless had visions to exterminate entire peoples. Imagine if this Christian Kingdom (with its visionary group of believers) wasn't hell bent on genocide, but more on ever better military strategy training and even more successful operations. The group might have had a perpetual hold on vast parts of China and the world's largest nation might have had a vastly different history. There might have been 2 Chinas. (Actually the Christian Chiang Kai-shek and the nation Taiwan alongside means there ARE TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE CHINAS) And I mean on the mainland. Christians have a history of creating two Chinas, it seems.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Why aren't they believed on that issue?
Since everything they say is taken as unquestionable authority on the moon landing. (Why a double standard?) I might have to finally post a UFO thread. (in a few weeks perhaps) Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Without any commentary, just show me the scriptures that say God sacrificed HIMSELF.
HIMSELF. (And I am not asking for scripture about his child or "son") Scripture please. Quote it.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Nice quote from scripture.
(Did you miss the part about me ONLY wanting a raw scriptural quotation, absent any blather?) Again, where does it say God sacrificed himself? I don't care what (Gospel) John 1 says. I know that some scriptures say Jesus was God. I just want to see this large New Testament sacrifice theme being put into the context of God HIMSELF being the sacrifice. (Again, I'm not saying that no New Testament books had the idea present, I just wonder why it might never actually spell out that GOD HIMSELF WAS THE SACRIFICE) (I suppose my implication is that "Jesus is/was God" was such a LATE-developing idea, that the Biblical scriptures, with a reflection of various (earlier?) Christologies, did not quite have the chance to certainly describe the oft-repeated sacrificial lamb as God himself)
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