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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No need for a toothbrush or any other flesh supports because we'll all be changed into some new form. Are you familiar with Handel's Messiah? It's all scripture and near the end are the verses about how we'll all be changed into an incorruptible form. I sometimes remember scripture more from that glorious piece of music than the Bible itself.
Oh, can't resist: If there is a Rapture, listen to this and consider how nothing about Christianity is reduceable to some trivial child's tales, it's the very epitome of the heights of high civilization. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
It's ok Faith, nothing is going to happen.
I can absolutely guarantee it. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So now I'm checking out some of the others who are waiting for the Rapture. Listening to a guy who's really into the numbers of it all. He's counted the days from May 14th which is the anniversary of Israel's becoming a state, to September 11, which come to 120, which he then explains to be a very prophetic number. One of the biblical references he gives is to 120 years God gave for people to repent before the Flood came. If the "ark" leaves on September 10 then September 11 is the beginning of the Tribulation period of seven years, which of course symbolically echoes the Flood.
That's my own thought though. The man who is doing this video gets far deeper into the meaning of numbers and dates and other symbols than I can follow. But jaywill may be interested to know that he considers the Manchild to refer to the Rapture of the Church. Check it out about 17 something on the counter. And PaulK may be interested in his references to Hebrew Gematria which he's talking about all along, started some time before the above, sorry didn't note the counter number. Here's another one from this same man a month later adding more of the same kind of calculations. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I have a question...a hypothetical one for everyone participating in this thread.
If a Rapture happened (according to how it happens dogmatically)and was unavoidable...would you want to be taken or left behind? Why would you want either scenario? If you did want to be taken, what would you hope to gain from the experience? Here are my answers...and I'm curious to hear other hypothetical answers also...even you, Tangle! Put aside your preconceptions about the ludicrousness of it all...if A Creator were wanting to take some people off of this planet and leave others. which group would you want to be with and why? Phats Answers:
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I feel like I need to spend at least a year in heavy prayer and repentance and worship and service before I'll be ready to meet the LORD. On the other hand I don't think I could stand another year here. But if the Rapture is coming now the thought of missing it has my stomach in knots, so I'm praying hard that the LORD will take me. There's no way anyone could actually desire to stick around for the seven years of Tribulation that are to follow, though many will be saved in it nevertheless, but an extraordinary courage will be needed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
It's not a question I can answer Phat; it's just such silly idea that it's only answerable by those that believe in nonsense to start with.
It’s a bit like asking if the moon was made of cheese, what kind would it be? But in any case, if you DID believe in all this stuff why wouldn't you want to be with guy you say you believe in? That doesn't make any sense at all.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
But in any case, if you DID believe in all this stuff why wouldn't you want to be with guy you say you believe in? That doesn't make any sense at all. Because the bottom line is that in some ways I fear surrender. I like the old habits and addictions....its a daily choice to let go. Im also not 100% sure that I will like the changes He would cause in me....but this is a belief and a trust decision.....solid evidence is scarce.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Did you read my post? I was referring to the talking snake - that it told the truth. It is true that the snake told the truth.
what truth are YOU referring to? Phat writes:
Did you read my post? I have never said that. Just a few days ago I said that I don't promise anything but blood, sweat, toils and tears. The straight-and-narrow isn't guaranteed to be easy.
That society will enter into a golden age if we simply give to each according to our ability and receive according to our needs? Phat writes:
Did you read my post? I didn't say any such thing - but of course they have always been outdated and unnecessary.
That God and religion are outdated and unnecessary? Phat writes:
Did you read my post? I didn't say anything about any message or messenger. Of course, if you have the message, you don't need the envelope any more.
That the message is that we can do it without Him? Phat writes:
See how much you read into everything I say? Why don't you just read what I write? Why don't you just read what the Bible says? The snake is an effective preacher! The snake is just a snake. In fact, the snake in Genesis 3 isn't even a snake. He just represents what Eve was thinking.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I wouldn't choose to go but if I did go I'd give the Creator a slap and ask Him what the hell is wrong with Him. Killing millions of humans with a flood? Torturing millions of humans with hellfire? Worst psychotic mass-murderer in history. ...if A Creator were wanting to take some people off of this planet and leave others. which group would you want to be with and why?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
You're even crazier than I thought...
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I went out on the balcony this morning about fifteen minutes before Israel's sunset time, about 8:50AM here. Waited half an hour. It was cold out there. I realized there's no advantage to being on the balcony anyway because there's a roof overhead and a big tree on one side, so I might as well be inside.
So I looked up what time they blow the shofar for Rosh Hashanah and found out it isn't at sunset, it's during the day, and can be many times over both days. Assuming the shofar blast is the call to the Rapture that makes predicting the time just about impossible. I tried to find a schedule for it in Israel but didn't succeed yet. Did find one for the local synagogue which lists only 11:30 AM tomorrow the 10th. So I can have that in mind but I think Israel time is more likely. I need to sleep more. I'd rather stay awake but I can't. If they only blow it during the daytime I'll risk sleeping during their night hours, starting now. So I guessed wrong about sunset in Israel, but there's still a whole day to go, maybe two except I'm still holding onto the 10th It's now 4:50PM here, 2:50AM the tenth there.
another video Toward the end he says he's a geologist. I wonder how he puts together the age of the earth issues.He is one of those who doesn't recognize that the Pope is the Antichrist who has already been revealed, and the Great Apostasy is the Roman Catholic Church itself plus all the other churches that have been joining with it in recent times. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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I dont think its going to happen, Faith...though unlike tangle I leave open the possibility.
Add By Edit: I understand you, however. You want the security and companionship of Jesus. You literally pine for it! You need it so bad! Like me, your hurt. Your body is worn out. Your life is boring apart from forum and blog communication with others. If nothing else, I hope that you get your ticket out. But don't do anything stupid and commit suicide or anything....quite likely we will be stuck here for a while. Keep trying to make friends with leftists and atheists....maybe God is waiting for you to fill up the bus before departure! Edited by Phat, : addedChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Well Phat, according to EVC logins it look like Faith has gone but you've ben left behind. I guess you finally got lucky :-)
Jayill's still here too; that'll piss him off, but it's no surprise to me.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Still ten hours left of September 10 in Israel.
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Percy Member Posts: 22389 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Faith writes: Still ten hours left of September 10 in Israel. In four hours when you realize you're still here, that everyone's still here, will you:
--Percy
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