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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: In other words you want to deny religious freedom to some - there’s nothing in your Constitution saying that it doesn’t apply to would-be immigrants in their dealings with the government.
quote: There’s no twisting on MY part.
quote: The tyranny you want is hardly likely to be better. So why should I support that against a largely imaginary threat ? (A threat quite likely concocted to encourage a move towards tyranny)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Which, of course, is a lie. Look Faith, we get that you are an evil lying hypocrite. I just don’t get why you think that demonstrating that again and again will silence your critics. It has failed again and again.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I get away with it because it’s true. You might better ask why you get away with your false accusations.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Let’s note that the authors are complaining that news stories are NOT used to promote Christianity. That isn’t anti-Christian bias, it’s an absence of pro-Christian bias.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Maybe, but not supporting is different from active opposition.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Which might easily be more a product of their bias than anything else.
quote: I would be interested in knowing the truth about that one. (Of course I have a number if history books that don’t mention it - for the very good reason that they aren’t covering that period)
quote: Coming from someone who frequently complains about truthful criticism that is not exactly worth much.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: I invite you to contribute to uncovering the truth then. You can start by identifying the book in question.
quote: Exactly Faith. When people dare to truthfully criticise you, you start lying just like that. It’s exactly the same with the criticism of Trump, we get the fake news lies and the conspiracy lies. But you are happy to credit absolutely fake news like Pizzagate.
quote: You are pretty good at seeing what you want to see. As the first sentence there proves.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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An example of the author’s bias
Look at it this way: An atheist would argue that God, as a product of imagination, has no real place in an objective news report. A Christian would argue that God's existence and sovereign ty are objective truth, regardless of an atheist's personal belief in God's nonexistence. Is an objective reporter supposed to treat God as matter of fact (in which case he is joining the theistic side) or matter of opinion (in which case he has assumed the truth of atheism)?
You will note that the presentation is clearly slanted. Taking no position on an issue that cannot be objectively established either way is presented as taking a side. Not only are the authors clearly biased, their presentation is clearly biased , too.
Chapter 4
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I can probably track it down, although the last time you demanded evidence and I gave it it just got ignored.
But are you going to claim that you condemned Pizzagate as - at the least- implausible and in need of evidence ? Because you know full well you would have gone a lot further if it had been directed at Trump or anyone you support.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Some evidence ? You mean an email that seemed to be oddly worded - but might be just the writer’s style ? You think that’s even worth considering as evidence that a pizza restaurant has a basement full of abused children ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Here’s one example:
quote: Message 99
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: It certainly is not all you said
...there are reasons to think the code refers to sex acts with children
Goes rather further, does it not ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: And yet Chapter 2 is practically dedicated to the complaint that reports don’t reflect Christian belief.
chapter 2
Few reporters now accept this spiritual reality as a necessary backdrop to stories...
In philosophical terms, newspapers offer not only phenomena, but noumena; not only facts learned from study, but an infrastructure that gives meaning to the facts. When the Detroit Free Press offered its readers a typical newspaper report on urban crime, introductory facts and anecdotes were immediately followed bw list of "things that spur killings . . . stress, joblessness, poverty, guns, and subcultures of violence." Sin was not mentioned.
The current AIDS plague has provided an opportunity for widespread repentance. Paul told the Romans that when men do not give thanks to God, their thinking becomes futile, and then God lets them turn thought into action: Men abandon "natural relations with women," are "inflamed with lust for one another," and "commit indecent acts with other men." Finally, they receive "in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:18- 4 32). Recent news accounts have speculated about a variety of potential causes of AIDS, but materialist reporters could not take seriously the belief that AIDS is a God-sent warning to homosexuals and to adulterous heterosexuals and to anyone who scorns Him.
In fact I would say that they are complaining not because the reporting is not objective but because it is. The authors effectively define objectivity as agreement with their religious beliefs. But true objectivity must deal with the fact that those beliefs are not objectively demonstrable and cannot treat them as fact.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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That is incredibly lacking in information. No titles, not even a clear description of the subject matter. And some pretty clear bias on the author’s part - for instance he complains that very little attention was paid to the life of Jesus (which is not historically that important and lacking in good sources, too)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: As I said it is essentially a complaint that reporters do not agree with their bias. Unfortunately they are at best unable to see that, which would be ironic to say the least.
quote: To you they are important, but the life of Jesus was not that important to history, and even the Reformation is only a part of the upheavals of the time.
quote: Not entirely - he lists other things like the Eastern Churches. He even complains that the treatment of Catholicism is inadequate. e.g. (concerning US history)
That the Catholic school system was founded at great cost and sacrifice as an expression of the American search for religious freedom is not mentioned once.
quote: In other words the decline in vicious anti-Catholic propaganda is due to an evil Catholic plot. I guess i’m going to be accused of making vicious personal attacks for pointing out the obvious truth. Again.
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