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Faith 
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Message 256 of 1677 (839879)
09-17-2018 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by Percy
09-17-2018 12:07 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Everyone thinks your behavior here is bad. It isn't like it is anything subtle. You're the poster child for how your form of Christianity fosters intolerance, hate, abuse, anger, animosity, indignation, rage, intemperance, petulance, vengefulness, etc.
I deny that there is any intolerance or hate or vengefulness in anything I've said. You have come under the influence of leftist thinking, that's all. Leftists impute motives to people that aren't there, it's a very low form of political thought, the lowest.
You mischaracterized my evidence by leaving out the fact that the timing was the important part, not just the content. I can't ignore the timing of the messages, but I can try to see them in a different context, such as pertaining to me personally.
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Message 257 of 1677 (839882)
09-17-2018 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by Faith
09-17-2018 3:56 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Faith writes:
Your standards are leftist Political Correctness, not God's standards. (I know you say you are not a liberal/leftist but anyone who thinks the way you are thinking is a leftist to that extent and it's a large extent.)
Having the best interests of your fellow man at heart is leftist political correctness? Who knew!
Faith, what is wrong with you? You're disparaging the better angels of our nature as if they were bad qualities. Basic humanity means empathy and compassion. You appear to have none, just blind inflexible belief. If there really is a judgment day then when that day comes you'll find those beliefs cold comfort as your deeds are measured against the yardstick of good will toward men.
--Percy

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Message 258 of 1677 (839884)
09-17-2018 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Percy
09-17-2018 4:47 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
My actions are measured against God's commands, AND GOD IS THE ULTIMATE HUMANIST. You have accepted a leftist definition of good will to humanity, it is NOT really good will to humanity, it's a leftist PC distortion. To support killing the unborn as a woman's right is a really twisted distortion of good will to humanity. To play into the fantasies of homosexuality by the travesty of pretending they can marry in any meaningful sense is a ridiculous distortion of marriage and a flat-out denial of reality. Liberals/leftists live in a purely emotion-driven La La Land where you just make it all up to fit your fantasies.
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Percy
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Message 259 of 1677 (839887)
09-17-2018 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Faith
09-17-2018 4:17 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Faith writes:
Everyone thinks your behavior here is bad. It isn't like it is anything subtle. You're the poster child for how your form of Christianity fosters intolerance, hate, abuse, anger, animosity, indignation, rage, intemperance, petulance, vengefulness, etc.
I deny that there is any intolerance or hate or vengefulness in anything I've said.
Maybe you just can't see it from the inside, but anyone looking at you from the outside can see it clearly. It's puzzling that you think you've displayed tolerance and compassion toward LGBT's and immigrants and Muslims and leftists and so forth, because your judgments are indisputably full of all the pettiness and wrath of an Old Testament God.
You have come under the influence of leftist thinking, that's all. Leftists impute motives to people that aren't there, it's a very low form of political thought, the lowest.
What I've objectively described is how good people behave independent of political thought.
You mischaracterized my evidence by leaving out the fact that the timing was the important part, not just the content.
Again, I wasn't characterizing it, I was referring to it. But obviously your evidence was wrong or misinterpreted since everyone is still here and we're still waiting for the rapture.
I can't ignore the timing of the messages, but I can try to see them in a different context, such as pertaining to me personally.
The rapture is like fusion power: it lies in the future and always will.
--Percy

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Faith 
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Message 260 of 1677 (839888)
09-17-2018 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by Percy
09-17-2018 5:24 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
I don't claim to have "displayed" tolerance to anyone, I'm arguing a political point, period, but YOU are reading a LACK of tolerance into that political point that is not there. I do not think it is a blessing to humanity in any sense whatever to deny the realities that have to be denied in order to support leftist fantasies.
I feel for all the people you list. I feel for Muslims for being the pawns of an evil ideology, I feel for LGBT people who must suffer a lot because of their inclinations. I simply do not think the solution is to let Muslims live where they are probably going to produce jihadists and threaten the other citizens, or mangle the meaning of marriage or any other social norm to support an unreality.
I was wrong about Rosh Hashanah, but not necessarily wrong about the Rapture's being close. That remains to be seen. Nevertheless i'm taking it all more as a personal message to me anyway.
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Message 261 of 1677 (839890)
09-17-2018 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Faith
09-17-2018 4:51 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Faith writes:
My actions are measured against God's commands, AND GOD IS THE ULTIMATE HUMANIST.
So you believe, but when your beliefs were put to the test they failed. Maybe some reconsideration of your beliefs is in order.
You have accepted a leftist definition of good will to humanity, it is NOT really good will to humanity, it's a leftist PC distortion.
It is a measure of the distance you've put between yourself and any true God that you believe empathy and compassion and goodness are some political plot.
To support killing the unborn as a woman's right is a really twisted distortion of good will to humanity.
You're just sloganeering. To impose your will on some other woman's body is evil.
To play into the fantasies of homosexuality by the travesty of pretending they can marry in any meaningful sense is a ridiculous distortion of marriage and a flat-out denial of reality.
Denial of joy and happiness to your fellow man is the true realm of the tyrant.
Liberals/leftists live in a purely emotion-driven La La Land where you just make it all up to fit your fantasies.
You're doing what you think the Bible tells you, but that isn't faith. Faith is believing when common sense tells you not to. It isn't just goodness you're questioning, it's everything it stands for. It's kindness and joy and love and all the other intangibles. Someday you'll find that your way of facing the world just doesn't work. And when you do, don't overlook those lovely intangibles. You'll discover those are the only things that are worthwhile.
--Percy
PS - Last paragraph highly plagiarized.

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Faith 
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Message 262 of 1677 (839891)
09-17-2018 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by Percy
09-17-2018 5:51 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
You're doing what you think the Bible tells you, but that isn't faith.
I'm doing what I KNOW it's telling me, which is what it also told those bakery people and the florist and the photographer. We all got the same message out of it. And we obey it BECAUSE we have faith in it as God's truth.
Faith is believing when common sense tells you not to.
Faith is believing IN something, in God Himself, and in what has been revealed by God about Himself, an objective basis for faith. And believing in it all because you are convinced it is the TRUTH. It's all positive, it isn't believing against common sense or against anything else, it's believing because you believe positively that it is the truth. And having faith in it all means you know it is all real, completely real and true, which is why you obey it, obey God. This notion that faith is some leap in the dark belief you hold against common sense was made up by liberal Christianity. Like Unitarians and that bunch who know zip about the reality of God.
It isn't just goodness you're questioning,
What you are calling goodness is in fact evil according to God.
...it's everything it stands for. It's kindness and joy and love and all the other intangibles.
There is no kindness in leading women to kill their babies, or indulging LGBTs in living a lie and making everybody else accept the lie as if it's truth.
The only real joy there is comes from knowing God. And there is no love like God's.
Someday you'll find that your way of facing the world just doesn't work. And when you do, don't overlook those lovely intangibles. You'll discover those are the only things that are worthwhile.
I can't think of the word for this .. something like sanctimonious bluster maybe. You are simply continuing to argue from made-up emotional speculation the way leftists do. Blubbery sentimentality, hot air.
What do you mean "my way" anyway? I'm just trying to be obedient to God. The joys of biblical belief that far surpass such puff and whistling in the dark are sadly out of your reach.
I guess you figure if you turn the tables and preach your dogma at me we're even or something?
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Faith 
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Message 263 of 1677 (839893)
09-17-2018 11:32 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by Percy
09-17-2018 5:51 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
... when your beliefs were put to the test they failed. Maybe some reconsideration of your beliefs is in order.
I didn't answer this, it didn't make any sense to me. I guess you mean my Rapture prediction failed? But scripture doesn't say when it is going to occur, only that we should be aware of its nearness.
I added the idea myself that it could occur on Rosh Hashanah for the reasons I gave, but I can't invest faith in my own thoughts the way I do in the Bible. That personal prediction failed but it has nothing to do with the biblical prediction that there WILL eventually be a Rapture of the Church, meaning all those believers who are watching for Him to appear.
No, my beliefs didn't fail, we are still to watch and wait for the Rapture, and it still COULD be very close, just not as close as Rosh Hashanah was.

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Percy
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Message 264 of 1677 (839905)
09-18-2018 12:00 PM


Summation mode? Really? No warning? Still short of 300 messages?
Someone dumped this into summation mode so I'm not bothering to read the responses to me since I can't reply directly to them, and responding to their specifics in a summation would not be in the spirit of summation mode.
--Percy

  
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Message 265 of 1677 (839909)
09-18-2018 12:45 PM


Thank God the Rapture is ruptured; just more failed prophecy, and Faith's God is a picayune little wimp uninteresting to anyone that has any connection with reality, truth or honesty.

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Percy
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Message 266 of 1677 (839974)
09-20-2018 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Faith
09-17-2018 5:57 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Faih writes:
You're doing what you think the Bible tells you, but that isn't faith.
I'm doing what I KNOW it's telling me, which is what it also told those bakery people and the florist and the photographer. We all got the same message out of it. And we obey it BECAUSE we have faith in it as God's truth.
If you think God is telling you to be cruel to people it's probably not God you're talking to.
Faith is believing when common sense tells you not to.
Faith is believing IN something, in God Himself, and in what has been revealed by God about Himself, an objective basis for faith. And believing in it all because you are convinced it is the TRUTH. It's all positive,...
There's nothing positive about cruelty.
...it isn't believing against common sense or against anything else, it's believing because you believe positively that it is the truth.
If it were true it wouldn't be advocating cruelty.
And having faith in it all means you know it is all real, completely real and true, which is why you obey it, obey God.
God wouldn't be telling you to treat people cruelly.
This notion that faith is some leap in the dark belief you hold against common sense was made up by liberal Christianity. Like Unitarians and that bunch who know zip about the reality of God.
You're not practicing anything resembling Christian charity if you have to tear others down to build yourself up.
It isn't just goodness you're questioning,
What you are calling goodness is in fact evil according to God.
Your God thinks goodness is evil? Again, I don't think it's God you're talking to.
...it's everything it stands for. It's kindness and joy and love and all the other intangibles.
There is no kindness in leading women to kill their babies, or indulging LGBTs in living a lie and making everybody else accept the lie as if it's truth.
There's no goodness in imposing your religious views on others.
The only real joy there is comes from knowing God. And there is no love like God's.
Cruelty gives you joy. Interesting.
Someday you'll find that your way of facing the world just doesn't work. And when you do, don't overlook those lovely intangibles. You'll discover those are the only things that are worthwhile.
I can't think of the word for this .. something like sanctimonious bluster maybe. You are simply continuing to argue from made-up emotional speculation the way leftists do. Blubbery sentimentality, hot air.
What do you mean "my way" anyway? I'm just trying to be obedient to God. The joys of biblical belief that far surpass such puff and whistling in the dark are sadly out of your reach.
I guess you figure if you turn the tables and preach your dogma at me we're even or something?
That paragraph you responded to was actually something Fred Gaily said to Doris Walker in Miracle on 34th Street, with minor edits for context.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 267 of 1677 (839975)
09-20-2018 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Faith
09-17-2018 11:32 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Faith writes:
... when your beliefs were put to the test they failed. Maybe some reconsideration of your beliefs is in order.
I didn't answer this, it didn't make any sense to me. I guess you mean my Rapture prediction failed? But scripture doesn't say when it is going to occur, only that we should be aware of its nearness.
Yes, your rapture prediction. You believed the rapture would happen earlier this month. Your beliefs were wrong, just as scores of Christians making the same prediction have been wrong before you. Your beliefs have failed a test. Christians have believed the rapture was near for almost 2000 years, and they've been wrong for almost 2000 years.
No, my beliefs didn't fail,...
How is believing that something would happen that didn't not a failure?
...we are still to watch and wait for the Rapture, and it still COULD be very close, just not as close as Rosh Hashanah was.
If you were wrong about the rapture being earlier this month, then since all the rest of this has the same Biblical basis it is probably wrong, too.
--Percy

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Faith 
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Message 268 of 1677 (839981)
09-20-2018 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by Percy
09-20-2018 1:52 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
It's cruel the way refusing to give a blind man a license to drive a car is cruel.
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Faith 
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Message 269 of 1677 (839984)
09-20-2018 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Percy
09-20-2018 2:01 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
As I said, it DOESN'T all have the same biblical basis. The Rapture is biblical and will eventually happen, while any given timing proposed for it may or may not be correct and does not affect the prophecy itself. As I said.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 270 of 1677 (839988)
09-21-2018 2:15 AM
Reply to: Message 269 by Faith
09-20-2018 10:27 PM


Re: The First Bus never came. Shall we still wait?
Faith writes:
As I said, it DOESN'T all have the same biblical basis. The Rapture is biblical and will eventually happen,
People have made up the rapture; it doesn't appear in the bible anywhere. Paul talked once about 'meeting up in the air' but he never mentioned it again and it's only a 'thing' for a minority of super-fundies. Really, Faith, you'll believe anything at all that suits your purpose.
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while any given timing proposed for it may or may not be correct and does not affect the prophecy itself.
A prophesy without timings is not a prphesy. All timings that have been given have failed. Including the only one that mattered which was the 'in this generation' one. That was the one that disproved the entire enterprise.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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