Immigrants good for me and you? Bad? How to make a good answer that is accurate?

But it is not an opinion Faith but rather a conclusion based on overwhelming evidence.

I guess it is because it is a topic I have discussed here at EvC at length and so basic that I am always amazed when it gets challenged.When Christianity was the State Religion of Rome it might be reasonable to talk about a Western Christian civilization, one imposed on a significant part of the world by force of arms and economy. But once Rome retreated Western Christianity split up unto a whole herd of disparate factions. There was the Holy Roman Empire (hardly holy or Roman or even as extensive an empire as before) but also the various other cultures. Then there was the split from Roman Catholicism into Protestant and Protestant into all the different flavors of Protestantism. The civilization of England was quite different than Spain or the Dutch or the Belgians or France or Italy or Austria or Russia or Greece or Prussia. And so much of what we call Western Civilization was the product of inventions and technology and it was theology that was the defining difference while technology and invention were the unifying factors.Often we tend to use language in its more imprecise form. "Western Civilization" is a great example. If we look at the actual history and at what divides Western Civilization from Eastern Civilization religion is certainly one major factor but only one, and in reality what was considered "Christianity" varied far more in the West than in almost any religious example outside the West. Even the Shia, Sunni, Sufi split in Islam was more uniform in beliefs than what was found in Christian cults. What was pretty much common in Western Civilization was technology and the reliance on technology.We can see a reflection of the varieties of Western Civilization in the Early North American intrusions; New England and Pennsylvania and New York and Maryland and Georgia and Virginia and the Carolinas were each quite different from the others and in turn, quite different from the Spanish settlements in Florida or the French settlements north and south. Each of these represented similar splits that existed in the macrocosm called Western Civilization.

Exactly. Western Civilization was Christians and Jews and Muslims and just about every religion that ever existed. And a significant part of that was based on one group saying the other group were NOT Christians. here is almost nothing that is common to all Christians that relates to society or civilization beyond a belief that everybody else are not Christians and are not civilized.What we call Western Civilization is NOT based on Christian ideals or laws or morals or forms of Governments or economy or science. In the US Constitution we went so far as to put in prohibitions against Christian Government. Particularly when we look at the Western Civilization of the last few hundred years it would be more realistic to call it a Western Muslim civilization since so much of it is based on adopting the Arabic numerals and Arabic science and those actually are common to all that we consider Western Civilization.

It was only called "Christendom" by some Christians. But back in the 1950s when I was in the segment of history course dealing with the last few hundred years it was called Western Civilization not Western Christian Civilization. And that was when I was attending a Christian School affiliated with one of the recognized Protestant Christian sects, not some Christian Avoidance School. But once again, reality shows you are simply once again wrong and just misrepresenting my position. I do not hate Christianity. I do find the picayune perversion of Christianity based on Calvinism, the modern Biblical Inerrancy movement and the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Dishonesty to be deplorable.