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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 1058 of 2073 (827619)
01-28-2018 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1056 by Coyote
01-28-2018 4:27 PM


Re: nature of time
coyote writes:
Don't you see the contradiction here?
You badmouth science (falsely) as a "religious belief" yet all the silly things you are claiming are based on religious belief, and additionally are completely contradicted by huge amounts of real-world evidence.
Doesn't it sometimes bother you how much real-world evidence you have to deny in order to maintain your fantasies?
You put the White Queen in Alice to shame. She could only believe six impossible things before breakfast. You seem to be well beyond that.
I deny no evidence ever. I simply expose the belief based methodology that you spray and dunk all evidence in, and still try to call the colored result evidence.

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Message 1064 of 2073 (840549)
10-02-2018 2:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1059 by Percy
01-29-2018 11:12 AM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
The fishbowl simply refers to the area known by man in the universe. No probe has gone even one light day away.

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Message 1065 of 2073 (840550)
10-02-2018 2:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1061 by RAZD
01-29-2018 4:17 PM


Re: nature of time
Don't call religion or beliefs science.

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Message 1066 of 2073 (840564)
10-02-2018 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1056 by Coyote
01-28-2018 4:27 PM


Re: nature of time
Only when filtered through your religion does evidence contradict creation. In reality it all agrees.

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Message 1068 of 2073 (840571)
10-02-2018 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1067 by ringo
10-02-2018 12:36 PM


Re: nature of time
Bingo, Ringo.

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Message 1070 of 2073 (840586)
10-02-2018 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1069 by ringo
10-02-2018 12:58 PM


Re: nature of time
That depends on whether it is true or not. When science pawns it's God awful silly made up fables on us as if it was actual knowledge or science, that is deceptive and vile and bad.
Now if science theories on origins were offered to us as fairy tales and made up whoppers and totally belief based godless idiotic scenarios, fine.

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Message 1073 of 2073 (840644)
10-02-2018 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1072 by Taq
10-02-2018 6:36 PM


Re: nature of time
post 1072
I look at the reality of the claim and the actual basis. Origin sciences claims are totally belief based.

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Message 1074 of 2073 (840645)
10-02-2018 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1071 by ringo
10-02-2018 3:44 PM


Re: nature of time
to 1071
Unless you show some basis other than belief you must wear it.

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Message 1075 of 2073 (840651)
10-02-2018 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1060 by Modulous
01-29-2018 1:51 PM


Re: nature of time
to 1060
Relativity does not deal with the nature of time in deep space. If you claim it does, then simply show us how.
Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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Message 1078 of 2073 (840701)
10-03-2018 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1076 by Taq
10-03-2018 10:48 AM


Re: nature of time
The wise men observed on over a house on a street. Yet you have faith something else happened.
The universe does not exist according to what you see happen on a street on earth.

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Message 1079 of 2073 (840703)
10-03-2018 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1077 by ringo
10-03-2018 11:47 AM


Re: nature of time
Here is an example in news of science being wrong
""A team of astronomers using the latest set of data from ESA's Gaia mission to look for high-velocity stars being kicked out of the Milky Way were surprised to find stars instead sprinting inwards.."
Gaia spots stars flying between galaxies
These fable producers don't know what is coming or going and continue to make stuff up."
Stars science say kicked out of galaxy actually coming in! | Christian Forums

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Message 1083 of 2073 (840747)
10-03-2018 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1081 by Taq
10-03-2018 4:55 PM


Re: nature of time
No. But what has that got to do with stars?

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Message 1084 of 2073 (840748)
10-03-2018 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1082 by 1.61803
10-03-2018 5:42 PM


Re: nature of time
GR is fine. The issue is whether it tells us what time is, and what time is in the far universe. Does it even apply in the far universe? Looking at some bent light does not mean GR had to have been responsible for the bending.
Since no distance to any star is known, no sizes are known, no mass...etc. That means whatever gravity is at work is also not clear. Etc...

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Message 1085 of 2073 (840750)
10-03-2018 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1080 by ringo
10-03-2018 12:45 PM


Re: nature of time
Being unable to deny getting busted is not honesty. Patching up areas in a faulty model that are shown to be wrong is not self correcting. It is criminal cover up.

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Message 1086 of 2073 (840751)
10-03-2018 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1051 by dwise1
01-28-2018 3:54 AM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
Your wacky conspiracy theories aside, I addressed the issue of correlations. They all rest on the same belief. That belief is that a same set of laws and nature applied on earth since the start.

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