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ringo
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Message 293 of 1184 (840433)
09-29-2018 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 292 by Percy
09-29-2018 12:42 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Percy writes:
So if the odds of dying in some activity were, say, 90%, you'd still do it because "statistics apply to populations and not individual events."
Odds vary greatly according to whether you do something properly or not. If you drive 150 mph down the highway you're more likely to die than a well-trained and well-equipped driver at the Indianapolis 500.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 299 of 1184 (840441)
09-29-2018 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Tangle
09-29-2018 2:23 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Tangle writes:
You carry a gun, a backup gun AND knives?
quote:
"Never go anywhere without a knife."
-- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
There are some things that no app can do.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 314 of 1184 (840458)
09-30-2018 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 313 by Tangle
09-30-2018 1:45 PM


Tangle writes:
Must be bloody exhausting.
Life is exhausting. That's why we sleep a third of it away.
In Canada, we don't "nip" or flit but we have a long checklist of things to do before we leave the house: check the weather, decide on what shoes or boots to wear, decide on raincoat, parka, etc., how many sweaters, etc., hats, scarves, gloves, etc., make sure there's somebody watching the kids, make sure the dog doesn't have to go out, in summer put on sunscreen and bug repellant, in winter, make sure the car has been plugged in over night, make sure the driveway is clear of snow, check the on-board survival kit, hope the car starts, figure out what to do if it doesn't....
I don't think a couple of weapons would add much proportionately to the ritual. Mind you, you would have to keep ithem somewhere accessible. Also mind you, in 66 years I've only seen one handgun in civilian hands.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 321 of 1184 (840476)
09-30-2018 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 320 by DrJones*
09-30-2018 4:32 PM


DrJones* writes:
perhaps you might enjoy a trip to a range.
I have fired rifles and shotguns. I see no reason to own one.

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 326 of 1184 (840484)
09-30-2018 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 325 by Tangle
09-30-2018 5:18 PM


Phat writes:
Ah but you're forgetting the eternial vigilence.
I doubt if jar is that much more vigilant than I am. I may not be prepared to shoot back but I still want to see it coming.

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ringo
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Message 342 of 1184 (840512)
10-01-2018 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by ICANT
10-01-2018 1:11 AM


Re: Today's carry package:
ICANT writes:
You sure don't know anything about guns.
I know a Browning High Power when I see one. Mind you, I've never seen one in real life.

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ringo
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Message 350 of 1184 (840570)
10-02-2018 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by Hyroglyphx
10-02-2018 12:52 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Hyroglyphx writes:
... not necessarily an argument against self-defense.
Turning the other cheek is a pretty good argument against self-defense.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 352 of 1184 (840575)
10-02-2018 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 351 by Hyroglyphx
10-02-2018 12:57 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Hyroglyphx writes:
"I didn't come to bring peace, but a sword." - Jesus "Hippie" Christ
That isn't about self-defense.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 356 of 1184 (840581)
10-02-2018 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 355 by Faith
10-02-2018 2:44 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
Turning the other cheek is about being insulted -- that's what a slap on the cheek meant. It is not a threat to your life.
Don't you get tired of being wrong all of the time?
Jesus said:
quote:
Matthew 5:38-39 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
He was definitely talking about physical injury, not insult. He was refering to the Old Testament law:
quote:
Exodus 21:23-25 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Definitely about physical injury and/or death. Definitely not about insult.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 357 of 1184 (840582)
10-02-2018 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 354 by Faith
10-02-2018 2:40 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
However, Jesus said two swords for the whole group was enough, not a huge support for carrying arms. But it is SOME support.
He said that the swords were for a (contrived) fullfilment of the prophecy - i.e. they were evidence against Him, showing that He was leading an armed rebellion. It was a bit like leaving dead bodies dressed in Polish uniforms outside that German radio station in September, 1939.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 359 of 1184 (840587)
10-02-2018 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 358 by Faith
10-02-2018 3:27 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
Hey you're right. I didn't know that was the context....
It baffles me how you can miss what the Bible plainly says so often. That's why I don't trust you when you cite thousands of theologians and apologists for thousands of years agreeing with you. Either you're getting them wrong or they got it wrong.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 361 of 1184 (840595)
10-02-2018 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 360 by Faith
10-02-2018 3:53 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
No, you just like your own interpretations, I don't get it wrong very often at all.
Reality says otherwise. I'm not the only one who has proven you wrong on multiple occasions.
I also cheer you every time you're right.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 366 of 1184 (840605)
10-02-2018 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 363 by Faith
10-02-2018 4:09 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
But as I said it's about personal retaliation, not self defense in serious lift=threatening situations.
Well, it doesn't say that. After being so blatantly, demonstrably wrong in the first place, it might behoove you to throttle back the arrogance a notch or two.
Maybe He wasn't refering to broader situations and maybe He was. There is no justification in the text for the position that you and Got Questions are taking.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 369 of 1184 (840612)
10-02-2018 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by Faith
10-02-2018 4:21 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
You don't know how to read the Bible, sorry.
I quoted it right to you. There's no excuse for your denial.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 373 of 1184 (840619)
10-02-2018 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 370 by Faith
10-02-2018 4:27 PM


Re: Today's carry package:
Faith writes:
Quote all you like, you don't know how to read it.
You're just twisting it.

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