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Message 801 of 1498 (840849)
10-04-2018 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 799 by ringo
10-04-2018 12:11 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Yes, as we can watch trees grow. Too bad for you that has absolutely zero to do with how layers were deposited or trees grew in the former nature.

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Message 802 of 1498 (840850)
10-04-2018 6:05 PM
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10-04-2018 4:30 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Don't flatter yourself. If you want to introduce a claim that present decay and rates etc existed in the past, then get to er. Did you think you could get by with simply assuming they did?

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Message 803 of 1498 (840851)
10-04-2018 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 798 by Tangle
10-04-2018 3:54 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Name ANY of those methods that is not based on belief that nature was the same in the past. Then we can talk. You can't. They all are. This means you have religion.

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Message 804 of 1498 (840855)
10-04-2018 6:17 PM
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10-04-2018 3:54 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
You cannot show any civilization older. The ONLY way you do that is with religious belief based same state past assuming decay dating. Gong.
Or would you like to resort to the king lists for dating!!!? Ha.

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Message 806 of 1498 (840900)
10-05-2018 11:51 AM
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10-05-2018 2:49 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Man has not kept records very long. In fact, there seems to be no reason to assume that man even had any need to write at all in that pre flood/nature change world. I suspect that the need to communicate via written form arose after the time of the tower of Babel.
Babel happens to be the likely time of the nature change. The nature change would have happened in the days of Peleg, and, if I recall, I think Peleg was about 5 years old at the time of Babel.

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Message 808 of 1498 (840910)
10-05-2018 12:06 PM
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10-05-2018 11:57 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Roughly the same as now. However apparently a year was 360 days so I guess there was some little difference.

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Message 814 of 1498 (840959)
10-05-2018 11:27 PM
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10-05-2018 1:23 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Good point. If there was no need to write to communicate, was there a need to write to record things? Who knows?
We have the hieroglyphics and they are from the earliest civilization pretty well after the flood.
So if you have pre Egyptian written records of businessmen writing numbers, do post it.

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Message 815 of 1498 (840960)
10-05-2018 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 813 by Tanypteryx
10-05-2018 4:19 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
This is a science thread so have you any physical evidence of writing pre Egypt? If not do not claim there was. If so, produce the goods.

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Message 816 of 1498 (840961)
10-05-2018 11:32 PM
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10-05-2018 1:43 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
No. Probably before the time of Noah, the record of the bible indicates a world that was of a different nature.
So tree rings and other things we see in this nature are no good for dating.
You see, I place the flood at 70,000,000 years ago or so, in science years. In actual real years it was 4500.

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Message 822 of 1498 (841116)
10-08-2018 9:52 AM
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10-05-2018 11:41 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
So how do you weigh in on whether there was any writing pre tower of Babel era? Clarity is nice.

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Message 823 of 1498 (841117)
10-08-2018 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 821 by RAZD
10-07-2018 2:29 AM


Re: And now some questions on sanity
My guess as to when the flood was is based on many facets of science and the bible and history.
Measuring a year in the far past on earth by this current nature is nothing more than a statement of faith.
Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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Message 824 of 1498 (841118)
10-08-2018 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 820 by RAZD
10-07-2018 2:22 AM


Re: Small clarification for you and Percy
Missing rings do occur in trees grown in this nature. To assume it was also true in the past nature is nothing more than blind faith in a same state past.

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Message 831 of 1498 (841181)
10-09-2018 12:13 AM
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10-08-2018 1:41 PM


Re: Small clarification for you and Percy
All correlations rest on the same baseless belief.
Missing rings cannot be documented past 4500 years. You seek to invoke a belief that because today there are missing rings, that this has to apply to an unknown nature also in the past.
Religion.

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Message 832 of 1498 (841182)
10-09-2018 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 829 by RAZD
10-08-2018 1:05 PM


Re: And now some questions on sanity
No year 5000 years ago is independently producible.

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Message 833 of 1498 (841183)
10-09-2018 12:17 AM
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10-07-2018 2:22 AM


Re: Small clarification for you and Percy
Today there are missing rings because of rot. Not in the former nature times though. You just believe there must have been for no reason.

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