Creation

They grasp at whatever straws they can to try and fight godless science. Too bad for them they have only tried to fight from within the religion of science itself. The deck is stacked there and they can't win.I win.

God is not in your little group or anyone who knows a thing about the creation debate. So use words however you like in your cult.

Fine, let's start with when.I'm waitinf for an answer.

Hi Taq, Why do we need leap seconds if the Atomic clock is in sync with the rotation of the earth?

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Every now and then a leap second is added to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) in order to synchronize clocks worldwide with the Earth's ever slowing rotation. Leap seconds are added to realign clocks worldwide with the Earth's rotation.

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why do we have leap seconds - Google SearchSeems like the clock and the earth don't match so the clock has to be adjusted to the rotation of the earth. I have existence which is what you call time. There are events that take place during existence and usually not all at once. The distance between those events is what we measure with a time piece.There is coming an event in the future when time as we know it will cease to exist. But there will still be existence with duration between events. Then why do we have to have leap seconds?I think it is because the earth is slowing down which make the day longer so leap seconds have to be added so the clock and earth are in sync.God Bless,

Hi ringo,Have you been eating some silly soup? If I got a bag!!!There has to be somewhere I exist.
I exist.
The bag exists.Now the only way red can exist in that bag is if I put red in there.
Red has to be a substance for me to put red in the bag, unless the bag is real big and I put my dog named red in it. I could pour some red paint in the bag and the inside of the bag would be red. If there was a piece of wood in the bag it would get red paint on it.I hope that helps you understand what existence is. It is the opposite of an absence of anything.God is existence and without Him there is no existence. How do you accomplish that?
You can measure distance by inches, feet, yards, miles or multiple miles. You can also measure distance with man's concept of time.
It takes me 1hr and 15 minutes to go from my house to my doctors office. Please explain that statement. You can measure the distance of a pendulum's swing with a tape measure.
You can also measure the duration it takes for the pendulum to swing from 1 extreme to the other extreme with a stop watch. The result of which you call the time it takes to make that journey.But please tell me how you measure time. I use a watch.God Bless,

Hi ringo, No you asked creation the following. I replied with God definition of eternity which is "I exist that I exist"We try to put a limit on existence and there is no limit on the duration of existence. There is either existence or non-existence.God Bless,

Hi creation, I know that time is not an object.
I know that time is not a thing.
I know that time is not a place.
I know I can not measure time.
I know I can not see time.
I know I can not feel time.
I know I can not taste time.
I know I can not hear time.
I know I can not tell time.I know that I live in the present.
I also know that 1 second from that present will be the present.
I know that I can measure the duration from sunrise to sunset with the concept of time.
I know I can measure the duration it takes me to go from my house to my doctors office with the concept of time.The squirrel is not concerned with time when he decides to cross the road. He does not think of the possibility he may never make it to the other side of the road. But depending on how fast he travels and how wide the road is determines the duration it takes for him to make the journey unless somebody interrupts his journey by running over him. In that case he will not make it across the road. But that will not stop duration or existence. He will still exist but he will be dead.The migrating bird takes x amount of duration to travel the distance to where he is going. We measure the length of that duration with mans concept of time. Hours and days and sometimes even weeks.I think I have a pretty good grip of what time is and is not.You are welcome to try and convince me that time is something other than a concept created by mankind to measure the duration between events on earth.I believe the shumarians were the first to devise a way to measure the duration between the rising of the sun and the going down of the sun. They didn't know the earth is what was moving not the sun. The Egyptians then got into the mix and created a sundial and divided that light period into 12 hours and the night into 12 hours.But anyway man got smarter and built time-pieces of all kinds.
All of these are based on the rotation of the earth relative to the sun.These guys here has been trying to convince me that time is a dimension to no avail. They have not put up a good argument yet.God Bless,

Hi Tangle, Why don't you go first?Oh I forgot there is no scientific answer just a guess.I can't tell you the duration the universe has existed. But I can tell you the when it began to exist. It began to exist in the beginning but not necessarily in the form it exists in today. There is no number large enough to define the duration from the beginning because God has always existed and so has the universe just not in the form it is today. Besides there was only one light period that existed until God created darkness that existed at Genesis 1:2.That makes it quite a bit older than the age given by YEC'S or scientist. They are all wrong.God Bless,

Hi creation, Scientist make no claim as to the origin of the universe.Neither do they make any claim as to the origin of life.The only scientific answer I have ever been given is "we don't know".But they have all the answers for what took place after the beginning of their existence.I have always been of the opinion if you don't know how they began to exist you can not be sure what took place after they began to exist.
But that does not stop them from trying to get me to believe their fairy tale.I have trouble with starting in the middle and trying to explain it. You have to start at the beginning.I have a book as well as some very old parchments that tell me how the universe began to exist. It also tell me how I got here, why I am here, and where I am going when I leave here.Science has no such book.God Bless,

Easy. Atomic clocks are not in sync with the rotation of the Earth. They are in sync with one of various energy level transitions in particular atoms, and are in no way connected to the rate of rotation of the Earth.Leap seconds are added to bring the Earth-rotation-based time back in sync with the atomic-clock-based time. If they weren't added the two would get more and more out of sync as time passes. Which would be inconvenient. But there's no physical requirement to keep the two in sync. We choose to keep them close to sync to simplify various conversions.Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

It's the other way round. The Earth-rotation clock is adjusted to match the atomic clock. But the two clocks do not have to match, it's just more convenient for them to be close to matching. Leap seconds are added so the atomic clock and earth are in sync, but not because of any change in the Earth's rotation rate. As of now that's too small to be important. They are added because atomic-clock time does not tick at the same rate as Earth-rotation time.

The scientific answer is "we're not sure but we have some possible hypotheses and are making significant progress in finding out".

yes, creationists do grasp at straws. Do you have anything to contribute except hot air? Pick a subject and discuss it.

Do you think your God is impressed by you flaunting your ignorance? Pick a topic and discuss it.

You're just making an empty claim. You need to show that "science cannot begin to cover it." Show us something specific that science has failed to cover. Then, when people show you that you are wrong, continue to back up your point.Edited by ringo, : No reason given.Edited by ringo, : No reason given.