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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
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Message 834 of 1498 (841184)
10-09-2018 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 810 by dwise1
10-05-2018 1:15 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Looking at the times given in Gen for Noah in the flood, and looking at Revelation we do see a 360 day year actually.

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Message 835 of 1498 (841185)
10-09-2018 12:20 AM
Reply to: Message 798 by Tangle
10-04-2018 3:54 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Your dates for civilizations are all based on the same belief. You thought belief was science?

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Message 836 of 1498 (841186)
10-09-2018 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 799 by ringo
10-04-2018 12:11 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Yes we see a lot of things in this nature. You see squat in the former nature, but simply believe it was the same.
Religion.

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Message 837 of 1498 (841187)
10-09-2018 12:24 AM
Reply to: Message 805 by Tangle
10-05-2018 2:49 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
No. It would mean that something changed that affected how long a day was. Could a changed distance from earth to sun do it?

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Message 845 of 1498 (841299)
10-11-2018 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 841 by ringo
10-09-2018 11:55 AM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Or show nature was the same. Believe what you like.

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Message 846 of 1498 (841300)
10-11-2018 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 844 by Faith
10-09-2018 6:53 PM


Re: And now some correlations
If trees grew in weeks in the former nature, tree rings have no meaning then as they now would in regards to age. Except bt faith alone.

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Message 847 of 1498 (841301)
10-11-2018 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 827 by JonF
10-08-2018 12:45 PM


Re: And now some questions on past times
Do we know for sure how to interpret the very earliest hieroglyphs?

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Message 848 of 1498 (841303)
10-11-2018 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 830 by RAZD
10-08-2018 1:41 PM


Re: Small clarification for you and Percy
Nothing in your link addresses the issue of what nature the trees grew in. Therefore no correlation is possible with anything but this nature. Ha.

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Message 857 of 1498 (841383)
10-11-2018 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 856 by RAZD
10-11-2018 4:40 PM


Re: Small clarification for you and Percy
It counts rings as if they were all grown in this nature. Correlations follow accordingly....religion.

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Message 859 of 1498 (841427)
10-12-2018 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 858 by RAZD
10-12-2018 7:40 AM


Re: Small clarification for you and Percy
The issue is what the C14 means. If you blindly believe in a same nature in the past, then the meaning becomes one thing. If we admit we do not know the nature in the past you cannot attribute present nature meaning on the C14...or anything else.
When was the change you asked? Probably about the same time as the tower of Babel, in the days of Peleg.

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Message 861 of 1498 (841498)
10-13-2018 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 860 by RAZD
10-13-2018 1:15 AM


Re: correlations not addressed (no surprise)
It is a fact C14 exists, that is true, but as mentioned the issue is what it means. Without first proving a same state past, you cannot claim it means anything.
Yes, C14 levels change over time. The issue is in what nature do they change? We can start by looking at measurements you claim for the rings on a tree beyond the 4500 mark!!! Let's see the C14 correlation exactly there...as nowhere else really matters.
By the way I see you mentioned Egypt, so show us a way to date ancient Egypt that does not in any way involve present nature decay rates? Ha.

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Message 865 of 1498 (841663)
10-18-2018 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 864 by RAZD
10-14-2018 5:17 PM


Re: correlations not addressed (no surprise)
The C14 pattern also could mean that a different nature existed in which C14 was not produced the same way or involve the same time. By the way did you show specifically the rings with the C14 to ring ratio for rings only beyond 4500 deep?
I do not need to prove your religion is wrong. I do not need to prove your same nature in the future and past is bogus. You need to prove it existed or you cannot use it in models!
Do tell us what Shaw uses to date Egypt! Ha. I can see why you only alluded to a link.
Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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Message 868 of 1498 (841750)
10-21-2018 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 866 by RAZD
10-19-2018 10:38 AM


Re: correlations not addressed (no surprise)
Now you resort to king lists for dates!!!!?? Hilarious. They admit they are not good for dates. There are spirits listed as early leaders in Egypt. Offering the king lists we now have to believe in the spooks!!? This is science?
Face it, you have one way only, the religious same nature in the past belief based so called radioactive decay dates. So much for your informed links claims.
As for any claim of any nature in the past, including the one you use...forget about it. Prove it first or it is a belief.

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Message 869 of 1498 (841751)
10-21-2018 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 867 by dwise1
10-19-2018 1:08 PM


Re: creation Proves that the Bible is Wrong!
Nice to see the positions drawn clearly in the sand. I believe science is wrong and that a year will be 360 days, and that it also was in the early part of history of man. I seem to recall other civilizations also used this, no? If so...the evidence mounts.

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Message 873 of 1498 (841780)
10-21-2018 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 871 by dwise1
10-21-2018 2:04 PM


Re: creation Proves that the Bible is Wrong!
No. My position is that God is right, and what you believe is right contrary to that do not matter.
I cannot say for certain a year was 360 days in the past here. I can say God uses it, so it probably is how it was, and is how it will be.
You better cool your little jets in thinking science can fight it's way out of a fishbowl.
Game on.

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