Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

Tangle,to Faith writes:6,000 year old earth? Adam and Eve are real? The flood happened? Everything in the bible is literally true?

Faith writes:Yup, it's all true, and it all came as a big surprise to me too.

Tangle writes:That's all stark, staring bonkers. You're 'truth' is pure delusion. So, no, your 'truths' are not going to ever be accepted because they're demonstrably not true.

ringo in 2012 writes: How do you conclude that the Bible is the word of God? Doesn't it have to conform to reality in some way to be considered reliable?

Faith in 2012 writes:Well I KNOW it's the word of God. Many things contribute to that knowledge that I don't think I could easily spell out although they include such mundane things as that I simply believe the Bible writers are credible witnesses. Since what they witness includes the supernatural works of God and Jesus Christ, that's good evidence OF God, and since that much is true I also believe the statements in scripture that point to its writers being inspired by God. But it doesn't necessarily all come together in that order and there's lots more than that, seems to me every day I learn new things that confirm the Bible is God's word.I also believe it does reflect reality, perfectly, and for the most part that is verified by observation and experience. Where it isn't I simply know that God's creation and God's word can't contradict each other and since God is infallible and human thought is fallible, it's a no-brainer which one has to yield to the other, starting with my own thoughts when something in scripture is beyond my understanding. It's a sad thing that so many put their own minds above God's.

ringo in 2012 writes: Reality is that the geological record could not have accumulated in 6000 years. The Bible is wrong about that, period.

ringo in 2012 writes: You can't just say that the sky "must be" green because the Bible sez so. Looking out the window proves it isn't so. Reality is where you have to start.

Faith in 2012 writes:Well, the Bible doesn't say such absurd things, overall it confirms observation and experience of the world. The conflicts come in with these speculative sciences about the past. Once you know God's word IS God's word, you know those are wrong. It would be nice to be able to prove it, and I think a lot of creationism has been proved, but also He doesn't seem to want to give us too much of that sort of evidence, because we are not to "walk by sight" meaning things we know, but "by faith." God has set things up so that we are to BELIEVE Him over our own thoughts. Those who do that, find that there is a lot more to reality bthan we ever dreamed. "Repent and believe" says scripture. "Believe and be saved" says scripture. "Faith is the evidence of things unseen" says scripture. "All these things have been written that ye might BELIEVE..." says scripture.That's the rules. That way lies salvation, that way lies blessings beyond imagination. That's the ONLY way to Reality.

ringo writes:The reality of the character has nothing, nothing, nothing to do with what the words say.

Faith writes:You see God as perfectly embodied in Jesus, as He came to us in His first advent. That way you limit Him to His work as savior and Suffering Servant and conveniently ignore that He is going to come again to destroy the enemies of God (Isaiah 61:2 and Revelation 19). He's God, GDR, He's God the Son; He was at the Creation; all things were made through Him. There is no way His character is any different from that of God the Father, who wiped out whole tribes for their idolatries. You are deceiving yourself.