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ringo
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Message 1051 of 1091 (841408)
10-12-2018 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1046 by ICANT
10-11-2018 7:48 PM


Re: Creation
ICANT writes:

ringo writes:

So how do you determine how long a year "used to be"?

Isn't that determined by the duration it takes the earth to go around the sun?

How do you look into the past to see how long that "used to be"?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1052 of 1091 (841409)
10-12-2018 12:10 PM
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10-11-2018 11:24 PM


Re: Creation
creation writes:

ringo writes:

So how do you determine how long a year "used to be"?


Scripture

What does scripture say about how long a year "used to be"? Chapter and verse?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Phat
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Message 1053 of 1091 (841417)
10-12-2018 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1052 by ringo
10-12-2018 12:10 PM


Re: Creation
I'm guessing that he will refer to the "day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day" scrip.

Scripture does not give us any better of a roadmap than science does....it just provides us a better driver (oops...I mean envelope )

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
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~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
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ringo
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Message 1054 of 1091 (841420)
10-12-2018 4:21 PM
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10-12-2018 4:14 PM


Re: Creation
Phat writes:

I'm guessing that he will refer to the "day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day" scrip.


That's what I'm expecting too. It doesn't work though. It doesn't give any method for calculating the difference.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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creation
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Message 1055 of 1091 (841434)
10-12-2018 5:50 PM
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10-12-2018 12:10 PM


Re: Creation
I'll have to look that up. I have seen it though....
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Message 1056 of 1091 (841435)
10-12-2018 5:51 PM
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10-12-2018 5:50 PM


Re: Creation
No. The 360 day year is found in both Rev and in Gen.
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ringo
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Message 1057 of 1091 (841436)
10-12-2018 6:03 PM
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10-12-2018 5:50 PM


Re: Creation
creation writes:

I'll have to look that up. I have seen it though....


Chapter and verse?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1058 of 1091 (841489)
10-13-2018 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1049 by ringo
10-12-2018 11:42 AM


Re: Creation
Hi ringo,

ringo writes:

The same red is seen the same way. There is no "red" in the ochre or the light bulb. The red is the wavelength of the light - i.e. it is a property of the light.

Are you telling me that red stuff that I got on my hands today when I put ink in my printer was just wavelengths of light?

I used gasoline and lacquer thinner trying to get those light wavelengths off and I still have red stains on my hands.

How do I get them off?

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 1059 of 1091 (841490)
10-13-2018 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1053 by Phat
10-12-2018 4:14 PM


Re: Creation
Hi Phat,

Phat writes:

I'm guessing that he will refer to the "day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day"

For your information Phat.

2 Peter 3:8 is talking about what time means to God not mankind. Read the scripture.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 1060 of 1091 (841491)
10-13-2018 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1051 by ringo
10-12-2018 12:07 PM


Re: Creation
Hi ringo,

ringo writes:

How do you look into the past to see how long that "used to be"?

Do you think the trip takes less or more now than it did in the past?

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 1061 of 1091 (841492)
10-13-2018 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1050 by ringo
10-12-2018 12:05 PM


Re: Creation
Hi ringo,

ringo writes:

There is no T bar in the story.

Well it is your story but I would have my T bar in my truck. Therefore I would not have a problem using it to get the correct measurement.

ringo writes:

If you set it on "end" to sit on it, the "height" is what used to be the "length".

A cube would be interchangeable by changing its position but try that with your kitchen cabinets and you will have a funny looking set of cabinets.

ringo writes:

A cabinet does have depth. It's like a hole in the wall. Hollow objects have depth - the depth of the hollow.

Actually most cabinets protrude from the wall 12". A medicine cabinet can be mounted on the surface of the wall or recessed in the wall.

ringo writes:

The "depth" of the Empire State Building would be the depth of its basement(s) or the depth of its foundations,

In building if the bottom of the foundation is 75 feet below the surface of the sitem that 75' is included in the height of the building.

The depth of the building would be the distance from the front door to the opposite wall.

We have wandered a long way from creation.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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creation
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Message 1062 of 1091 (841493)
10-13-2018 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1057 by ringo
10-12-2018 6:03 PM


Re: Creation
Here are a few sites dealing with the issue I googled..

http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/...GuyCramer/360vs365.html

http://xwalk.ca/360day.html

http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/...s/360PropheticYear.html


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ringo
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Message 1063 of 1091 (841518)
10-14-2018 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1062 by creation
10-13-2018 5:31 PM


Re: Creation
creation writes:

Here are a few sites dealing with the issue I googled.


I asked for Bible chapter and verse, not websites. Did you even read those websites? You could have gotten chapter and verse from them.

So, chapter and verse?


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1064 of 1091 (841519)
10-14-2018 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1058 by ICANT
10-13-2018 4:43 PM


Re: Creation
ICANT writes:

Are you telling me that red stuff that I got on my hands today when I put ink in my printer was just wavelengths of light?


I'm telling you that the "red" was red wavelengths of light reflected from the "stuff". If you wash off the "stuff" there will be nothing to reflect red wavelengths.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1065 of 1091 (841520)
10-14-2018 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1060 by ICANT
10-13-2018 4:52 PM


Re: Creation
ICANT writes:

ringo writes:

How do you look into the past to see how long that "used to be"?


Do you think the trip takes less or more now than it did in the past?

You're getting ahead of yourself. I'm asking how we can look into the past. Until we find a means of transportation, there's no point in asking how long the trip will take.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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