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Author Topic:   In Memoriam: Asgara
RAZD
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Message 31 of 37 (821156)
10-03-2017 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by xongsmith
10-01-2017 2:41 PM


and robinrohan, Comments on EvC Forum: A Play


we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
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Phat
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Message 32 of 37 (821192)
10-03-2017 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by RAZD
10-03-2017 10:46 AM


Legacy Of The Words We Write
I know about Asgara, Buz and Robin better after they passed than I did while they wrote on the forum, thanks to the archives that we keep. In some ways, an individuals legacy is known by the things they say and do. The victims in any shooting or tragedy become personalized and better known...unfortunately...after their tragic deaths. Thankfully, here at EvC so far our members have died (I prefer to say passed since I believe in a continuing realm..) due to natural causes.

Perhaps it is at times when the media personalizes victims and villains that we as a people need to examine our social interdependence and realize that it is never about us and them but that it always we the people. Perhaps if we realized this the world would be a better place.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
An atheist is someone who has no invisible means of support~Bishop Fulton J.Sheen

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Message 33 of 37 (821207)
10-03-2017 4:47 PM
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10-03-2017 10:46 AM


Words: Robin
I reread that play! Ironic that Robin made the following comment:
quote:
The world breaks everyone, and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those it cannot break, it kills.

It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these, you can be sure that it will kill you too, but there will be no special hurry.


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Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
An atheist is someone who has no invisible means of support~Bishop Fulton J.Sheen

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Message 34 of 37 (821308)
10-05-2017 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Asgara
09-24-2017 8:00 PM


I have been away from EVC for a few months. Needed time to recharge.
With all the things in the world, Puerto Rico, Las Vegas, North Korea, now I see this. I am for a moment overcome. Asqara has been here forever. Though she hadn't been around alot for the last few years she was still here. Like many here I was aware of her bouts with cancer. Worried when there was nothing for long periods.
I remember her counselling me when I was a newer member. She helped me find how to express myself, while being a little less offensive.

I am truly sorry and heartbroken by your loss. I am not sure if this helps at all but it is not just your loss. It is all of our loss. Know she was well loved here also.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 35 of 37 (821329)
10-05-2017 2:06 PM
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09-24-2017 8:00 PM


Feeling a loss
Years ago I was able to spend time getting to know Asgara until MSN went away. Somehow we lost contact.

Still, I feel a loss. The world is diminished.


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anglagard
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Message 36 of 37 (821406)
10-06-2017 11:04 PM
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09-24-2017 8:00 PM


Asgara Deserved the Title
Sorry I have not posted earlier, but the loss of Asgara is a reminder to me of the loss of my late wife. Her passing has taken me this long to process.

While I only conversed with her over chat, it did not take long to understand what an intelligent, humorous, deep, and from what I know, truly beautiful person she was.

A tremendous loss to me, to this forum, and to the entire world.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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mike the wiz
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Message 37 of 37 (841462)
10-13-2018 7:40 AM


VERY SELDOM do I come to EvC forum now, so for some reason I didn't know about Asgara dying even when I last came here as it was a fleeting visit. So I guess I am the latest to know. My 4,600 posts obviously since 2003 is roughly less than one post a day if I were to post every day. As a prolific writer the count would have been about 20,000 had I stayed but basically I am not here, and haven't been properly here since about 2009 I would guess.

Very few people will know this but in my twenties (and between 2003 to approximately 2006), Asgara was my friend online a little bit, and she entertained some of my eccentric madness at "Asgara world" but she knew it was all play as I was pRETENDING to have declined into a madness which made me write similarly to Brad McFall. (remember that guy)

So she stood out because she "understood" me, and understood my mischief, and I noticed she always found me online, whether it be my email somehow, or on utube, and she would follow me. She would say to me, "shine on crazy diamond" in quoting a pink Floyd song.

So today I logged on to EvC forum and I just thought, "I'll click on her name, I wonder if she still hangs round EvC" and then I found her last post was message one in this thread, which of course, wasn't her posting.

I got a shock, I admit. There's nothing as sad as death in some ways, at least from the perspective of a temporal agent because obviously you never see the person or hear them again for the rest of your life. metaphorically that represents them being "gone forever" in our finite minds, I suppose. And to those who do believe in annihilation, all the sadder in some ways I guess.

Asgara wasn't ideological in a way. I remember she acknowledge the logical consequences of moral relativism, I won't get into that but she wasn't so ideological in her beliefs that she had lost all touch with the, "theist" side so to speak even though agnostics generally don't differ much from atheists, but she definitely didn't have the "bite" you get from the anti-theists, she was NICE even to creationists. She was NICE to me. She acknowledged that I was also human, despite being a creationist.

I don't get that from many evolutionists online so she stood out. She and RAZD were always pretty nice to me.

But what you should get most from my post is that this thought hit me, I said it to myself. "michael.....Asgara is dead. Actually dead." and in that moment I couldn't believe it.

I guess that's also because this thread was so unexpected, as when I clicked on her name I thought that was the last post she had made, but as an alive person.

Asgara, wherever you are, if you are....you will understand my final mischief in this gender bending climate we now live in; "Bless you Sir."


  
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