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Hi Phat,
Phat writes: I'm guessing that he will refer to the "day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day" For your information Phat. 2 Peter 3:8 is talking about what time means to God not mankind. Read the scripture. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi ringo,
ringo writes: How do you look into the past to see how long that "used to be"? Do you think the trip takes less or more now than it did in the past? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi ringo,
ringo writes: There is no T bar in the story. Well it is your story but I would have my T bar in my truck. Therefore I would not have a problem using it to get the correct measurement.
ringo writes: If you set it on "end" to sit on it, the "height" is what used to be the "length". A cube would be interchangeable by changing its position but try that with your kitchen cabinets and you will have a funny looking set of cabinets.
ringo writes: A cabinet does have depth. It's like a hole in the wall. Hollow objects have depth - the depth of the hollow. Actually most cabinets protrude from the wall 12". A medicine cabinet can be mounted on the surface of the wall or recessed in the wall.
ringo writes: The "depth" of the Empire State Building would be the depth of its basement(s) or the depth of its foundations, In building if the bottom of the foundation is 75 feet below the surface of the sitem that 75' is included in the height of the building. The depth of the building would be the distance from the front door to the opposite wall. We have wandered a long way from creation. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: The calendar is an attempt to codify the actual physical year. It has nothing to do with the actual length of a physical year.I'm asking for evidence that the actual physical year was 360 days at any time in the past. The calendar does not arrange any laws or rules into a systematic code.Mankind does that There is no evidence of a actual physical year of 360 days in the distant past. Just like there is no evidence of a actual physical year of 365.25 days in the distant past. If there was a very long period of light as the cmbr suggests and the Hebrew text of the Bible suggests there was a duration of indefinite existence that light existed without an interruption of darkness. So called Bible Scholars try to tell me the universe is only 6k years old. Because they refuse to believe what the Bible says. The Bible does not teach, state or can be used to prove any such 6k claim. No one knows when the beginning was not even our best scientist. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo
ringo writes: I'm telling you that the "red" was red wavelengths of light reflected from the "stuff". If you wash off the "stuff" there will be nothing to reflect red wavelengths. It is pigment so it don't wash off. It has to wear off. -30-. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi Aussie,
I know my eyes can determine colors but to me a black car is black because that is what color my eye and brain tells me that it is according to what I have been told is the color black. I don't really know what color it is. I only know it matches what I have been told is black. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: We have ways of measuring the length of a year. A year is a artificial name given to the duration it takes for the earth to make a complete revolution around the sun.
ringo writes: We have ways of determining how much the length of a year changes with time. If we didn't, we wouldn't be able to adjust our clocks and calendars to keep in step with the cosmos. The length of a year can change.The length of a day can change. The length of duration can not change. The only thing that can change is the length between events in duration. That is the reason time is a concept developed by mankind to measure the duration between events in eternity. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi creation,
creation writes: You are not in a position to say the calendar God used in Gen was not accurate for that day. A prophetic year is basically a real year in the future. It is also the way God counts time here, since it was that way and will again be that way one day. Hope you didn't think the 365 day year was here for long. God did not have a calendar anywhere in the Bible. God gave the definition of a day.
quote: God called a period of light "Day".Since God is light it has never been dark where He is. "The Day of the Lord" that has been referred too has only ever been one light period that has existed eternally in the past and will extend eternally into the future. We have days, weeks, and years but God has "NOW". God created darkness for mankind and the earth.
quote: God went on to say the evening of that first light period (which we find at Genesis 1:2) with the period of darkness that ended with the following morning (sunrise) was "Day One". Not first day as mistranslated by the KJV translators. The Hebrew word used in Genesis 1:5 is אחד and is the Cardinal number one. The Hebrew word ראשון is the Oridinal number 'first'. The Cardinal number is in the original text not the Ordinal number. That is what God gave. He did not give any day after that but Moses did. At the time Moses wrote he had been educated in the house of Pharaoh in Egypt. The Egyptians had developed a concept by which they measured the duration between events in the light period and the dark period which Moses knew and used to influence his writing. creation it does not make any difference how many days we say are in a year. But what we are trying to do is match reality to our concept. The earth rotates a complete revolution relative to the sun with a specific length of duration between sunrise and sunrise that we measure with the concept of time. The earth also makes a revolution around the sun in a specific length of duration. If reality and our clocks don't match then we have to adjust the clocks as we can not adjust duration. It just is, to borrow a phrase from modulous. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: We have no reason to think that that is true. The length of the year depends on the rate of the earth's rotation. If the length of a year changed from 360 days to 365 days, there would have to have been some major force to change the rate of rotation. That force would have left evidence. It didn't. So it's reasonable to conclude that the change didn't happen. You do realize mankind is the ones saying how many days are in a year. They are only trying to match reality. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi wise1,
dwise1 writes: tropical year What does a solar year or tropical year have to do with a year as far as we are concerned with measuring duration between events on earth? Don't we have to match reality of the earth's revolution around the sun to our clocks? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi wise1
Would you agree or disagree that the life of the flesh is in the blood? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: creation is the one who thinks reality has changed. I'm just saying that we have no reason to think that is true. The number of days in a year has not changed significantly during human history. What I am saying is that mankind is the one who determines the length of duration between events in existence. And we devised a pretty good system to do that. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi Tangle,
Love the new avatar.
Tangle writes: I was inside the Arctic circle this summer, it never went dark and the sun didn't set. Does a biblical day not apply there? If you had stayed through the winter you would have seen a lot of darkness as the sun would have been shining over the north pole. A day is a light period. Regardless of its duration.A night is a dark period. Regardless of its duration. A light period and a dark period make a day. Regardless of its duration. I believe the light period that ended with the darkness found at Genesis 1:2 had lasted in duration from the beginning to the creation of darkness whenever that was. That light period and the following dark period is what God called "Day One". You can place as much duration as you need in that light period.There was nobody there to measure it and if there was clocks had not been invented then. As you can see I have no problem with any age you want to put on the universe. But as the Bible says there was only 6 days in which creation took place. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi creation,
creation writes: Yes we all know the current reality of orbits. The issue is the reality in the past. What difference does it make to us what the orbits were in the past? We don't live in the past. We live in the now and they support our life system as they are today so who cares what they were on the past? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Hi creation,
creation writes: Too bad the founts of the deep had ebbs and flows you may confuse for tides eh? Springs don't have ebbs and flows. They are water under pressure coming out of the ground and therefore only have flows. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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