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Message 20 of 128 (815696)
07-23-2017 9:09 AM
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07-17-2017 4:14 PM


looking forward to this thread
I'm hoping this thread might help to motivate me to change my eating habits. I've contributed to Percy's threads on diet because I agree with the basic idea of majoring in fat and proteins and getting rid of carbohydrates, and when I've done that in the past it's been very effective. Most diet plans these days make use of this basic understanding so there's lots to choose from to fit personal needs and preferences, but my problem over the last few years is that I've lost all motivation. I know I'd feel a lot better if I ate better and lost weight but instead I've been eating all the stuff I know I shouldn't and gained a lot of weight and feel terrible.
So far I'm not frankly diabetic but I've been hovering at a slightly high blood sugar for years now. When the doctor tested me a few weeks ago I thought I might finally have gone over the top but I hadn't, I'm still hovering in that slightly high range. I do avoid sugar but I've gone back to carbs like bread, pasta and potatoes. A lot of my problem is practical: I don't feel up to making a meal, doing all the work of chopping vegetables, so I easily lapse into throwing together a sandwich, not only the bad carbs of bread but with the fat of mayo, and if it's a hamburger that's another no-no.
I also don't get to the store very often these days. I no longer drive, although if my car were functioning maybe I still could. My brother who would take me shopping every few weeks now has a medical condition that makes driving a problem for him so I have to get rides from the volunteer organization. In any case I don't get to the market often enough to stay stocked up on fresh vegetables, which would be the best thing for the kind of regime I'd like to be able to follow.
But that's a separate problem from all the prepping. If it isn't one thing it's another. I like to make vegetable juices but that too has become too much of a project for me as a regular thing, all that cleaning and prepping and then washing the juicer. Which is all harder to do because I don't feel very good because I'm not eating right and around we go.
So there's my sad story. All just to say I'm hoping to get a kick start to improve my own health from reading this thread and other people's success stories.
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Faith 
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Message 22 of 128 (815702)
07-23-2017 9:54 AM
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07-23-2017 9:37 AM


Re: looking forward to this thread
Yeah I know, coyote, and I do that once in a while, although I run out of lettuce long before my next shopping trip which is a problem. But I can't keep up my motivation on lettuce wraps. I just can't. I love sourdough bread too much. And it's very hard to have a hamburger on a lettuce wrap. Tuna or egg salad OK, or a taco salad kind of sandwich, but I have a thing for hamburgers on sourdough these days. the only way I'm going to be able to change this stuff is to COMPLETELY change things. Get rid of the hamburger completely. Halfway stuff like substituting lettuce for bread is not going to work for me. You'd think feeling lousy and looking lousy would do it but it isn't doing it. I need a radical change. Over the last few days I started thinking in terms of snack type meals. Nuts, guacamole dip, hummus etc. Wondering if I could make that sort of thing the basis of a change.

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Faith 
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Message 26 of 128 (815713)
07-23-2017 2:45 PM
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07-23-2017 1:59 PM


Re: looking forward to this thread
Nope, no deliveries available here. Also there is no such thing as a "shop" here, by which I suppose you mean a shop that specializes in particular items? Butcher, baker, cheese store etc.? Everything is a supermarket and the nearest one is about a mile. Nothing in Nevada is what you could call "densely populated," and my town is fairly small.

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Message 27 of 128 (815714)
07-23-2017 2:59 PM
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07-23-2017 11:43 AM


Re: Extreme Dieting vs Lifestyle
Thanks. I had in fact heard that sourdough is better than other breads for blood sugar, but then a helpful relative gasped when I said I'm addicted to it, because it isn't "nutrient dense," which is her thing. I'm really not a bread lover generally so if I give up the sourdough I'll just give up bread. I'll do some more reading up on it myself to decide whether to keep it or let it go.
I'd almost bet you couldn't find a loaf of pumpernickel anywhere in this town by the way. Things are a lot better than when I moved here almost thirty years ago but there are still plenty of things I could get in California I can't get here. When I moved here they'd never heard of espresso for instance, which I'd guzzled in California. Now we have Starbucks. And the only reason we have anything "exotic" at all is because Californians keep moving here.
But I'm not at the point where I'm ready to make decisions about what to change anyway, I'm just thinking about possibilities and hoping this thread might get me out of my rut. The only decision I've made is to get more nuts on my next shopping trip.
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Message 52 of 128 (816909)
08-13-2017 12:30 PM
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08-13-2017 8:13 AM


Re: Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
I'm very sorry if my own lack of motivation has had a negative effect on your efforts, Phat. I wish you strength and resolve for your project.

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Message 55 of 128 (817308)
08-16-2017 1:42 PM
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08-16-2017 12:13 PM


Re: Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
Well I don't have discipline either. After decades of going through the yo-yo effect it's hard to drum up the will to do it again.
I've been changing some things in my diet but related to general health rather than weight loss, such as eating more of the foods I've found out are good for various ailments I have. That isn't very difficult but it may actually exacerbate the weight problem.
I'm still hoping I may get the motivation/discipline to focus on the weight.
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Faith 
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Message 95 of 128 (841546)
10-15-2018 4:01 AM
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10-15-2018 3:36 AM


Re: Good Advice
Just for the record, I've completely given up on doing anything about my bad eating habits, trying to lose weight or anything. Of course you are a lot younger than I am so maybe you can still muster some motivation. I can't any more.

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Faith 
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Message 98 of 128 (841572)
10-15-2018 2:13 PM
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10-15-2018 9:41 AM


Re: Good Advice
Can't do it any more.

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Message 102 of 128 (841762)
10-21-2018 3:22 PM
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10-20-2018 4:04 PM


Re: Good Advice
I'm 76, not particularly waiting for anything at the moment, just find it impossible any more to stick to any food system I've tried. I no longer shop for myself, I rely on others to figure out what's on my lists and they don't always get it right, and in general I eat what's easiest, fastest to put together, which is usually not something that requires a lot of washing and chopping as fresh veggies do. Cooking takes a lot out of me. I'll even resort to a piece of bread and butter for a meal.
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Faith 
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Message 104 of 128 (841772)
10-21-2018 4:27 PM
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10-21-2018 4:24 PM


Re: Science and Emotions
I'm glad you are having success with your diet.
Otherwise I don't much appreciate your comments about me lately (or a lot of your opinions in any case for that matter).
ABE: But let me add what may be a comforting thought about old age from Isaiah 40:30-31:
Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall: But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
Of course learning to wait on the Lord can be as hard work as sticking to a diet.
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