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Porkncheese
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Message 1138 of 1198 (841795)
10-22-2018 7:14 AM


Original sin
One of the main reasons I began to question the bible.
There are a few things that I don't understand and don't sit well with me.
As far as I understood it the reason we get baptized is to clense us from the original sin... I get that
Jesus was sent by God to suffer a bloody death in order to save humanity from its sins. Thats generally how it goes and what I struggled to accept
Why did God make Jesus go through such an terrible death?
How exactly does that save us from sin?
Why do we then still have to confess or even lead a moral life if Jesus saved us already? Or why lead a moral life is a simple confession absolves my sins?
What of all the people that died before Jesus? Or the people born in other cultures?
Did they just automatically go to hell?
That's one of the reasons why, even though I was raised a catholic, don't take the bible literally anymore. So many things in it just don't make sense

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Porkncheese
Member (Idle past 296 days)
Posts: 198
From: Australia
Joined: 08-25-2017


Message 1141 of 1198 (841936)
10-24-2018 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1139 by Phat
10-22-2018 11:43 AM


Re: Original sin
Phat. Sorry man I forgot how to quote stuff.
Ur correct about my old. Though I quickly concluded that it is irrational to call someone stupid when they have reached a position on an issue that no one has the total truth to. I mite think someone's view or idea is idiotic but making the person idiotic is lame.
Interesting point u make on the athiest position. Like a lot of their arguments it's mearly formed to oppose religion. They say "ur claiming God so u have to provide evidence otherwise I'm discounting the whole idea of deities" Its far from being a scientific conclusion.
As an agnostic this is unacceptable. Especially wen I hear Dawkins admit the possibility of extraterrestrial creation but not a God...
There a weird kind of culture I'm noticing on campus coming from the humanities and social subjects. I'm still monitoring it but it seems their being taught some really radical shit. "Feelings over facts". My engineering subjects remain unchanged by their ideology because we deal in facts. It explains a bit about society and we're it's going as well as why so many biologists are athiests. Without mathematics to confirm things Biology has adopted this "feelings over facts" approach according to my mate Dave who claims all hypothesis must fit into the darwinian framework which is absurd. Just to cherry pick the data that supports your belief and disregard anything that doesn't.
It would be negligent to do that in engineering
That brings me to this "one does not need to be religious in order to be good to others". Reminds me of what a modern psychologist said. "Without religion it's easy to loose morality". First I thought no there is the law to keep us in line but some morals aren't covered by law. How about women. The law let's them do as they please. As a result we have this metoo movement were countless women have no problem in making a false accusations in order to get rich. They say without God and religion your most cherished position becomes your religion. For a lot of women that's feminism. Dangerous. I'd like to hear some thoughts on that view from the people making that point.
Thanx Faith also for your insights
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