Importance of Original Sin

Well I think we have pretty much established the semantic games and equivocation that your position demands.Disobeying God is a sin. It is for this that mankind is punished. But there is no basis upon which the sinner can know that they are sinning without the knowledge that can only be gained by committing the sin.You might as well torture babies for selecting the "wrong" rattle.

You are doing that thing again where you break things into a binary choice. Those who follow an impossible robot-like existence determined solely by reason, rationality and objective evidence Vs those who accept irrational beliefs.Finding purpose and meaning in life can be very personal and subjective in many ways. Love, children, family, friends, companionship, fulfilment, goals, experience etc. are amongst the things pretty much everyone would cite.But finding meaning in loving and bringing up your kids (for example) is clearly more grounded than finding purpose by divining the wishes of a supernatural being and seeking to live your life according to how you believe this entity wants you to behave.I don’t love my kids and find meaning and purpose in bringing them up because my scientific instruments tell me to. But equally I’d agree with Tangle that there is no reason to think that some sort of elusive God given higher purpose even exists.

The fact that lots of people believe something doesn’t make it true. Lots of people have believed lots of very silly things.There is a question to answer about why so many people believe such things. And if we examine that question using the most reliable investigative techniques available to us there are answers to be found. But the answers so far achieved point to psychology, culture, history and other such very human factors. There is nothing to suggest actual god-given purpose beyond the popularity of the idea that there is one (with no real agreement on what that purpose would actually be, even amongst believers).So the difference between me and Phat is not that I am a robotic automaton who cannot experience love unless my Geiger counter tells me to. It’s that I am happy to claim love, find purpose and subjective meaning etc. Whilst accepting what science has to say about why we humans have such needs, feelings and experiences.

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There is a question to answer about why so many people believe such things.

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There is no such question from the point of view of those who do hold these beliefs, or who appreciate what Christianity has done for the world, it's only in the mind of people who have no clue to any of it.

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1) I am talking about all who seek/claim divine purpose. Not necessarily just Christians.2) That not questioning bit is where you are going wrong.

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Unfortunately such techniques are utterly incompetent to answer the question you are asking

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What techniques or methods of discovery do you suggest instead?

So millions of believers is justification itself for belief and don’t ask questions just believe is the investigative technique at play. But only as long as we’re talking about Christianity because none of the other religions with millions of followers are worth considering.I see.Thanks for the objective and impartial analysis and advice.