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Message 1129 of 1482 (842067)
10-26-2018 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1127 by ICANT
10-24-2018 2:07 PM


Re: Creation
Ah, so to prop up your twisted interpretation of created or made you have to invent 2 Eves.
Gong.

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Message 1130 of 1482 (842068)
10-26-2018 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1128 by ICANT
10-24-2018 3:01 PM


Re: Creation
Waters from the fount of the deep were not like florida springs. They watered the earth, not some garden is south Miami. The oceans were not even here yet as we know them.

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Message 1135 of 1482 (842158)
10-27-2018 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1133 by Aussie
10-26-2018 12:25 PM


Re: Creation
There were seas. Can you point out any verses that says there were oceans, or separate continents..etc? What we do know is that water was brought to earth from windows of heaven resulting in even the highest mountain of the day to be totally submerged.

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Message 1136 of 1482 (842159)
10-27-2018 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1132 by ICANT
10-26-2018 11:42 AM


Re: Creation
Hey, we don't know if there were oceans or not. There were seas.
As for when God separated the land from water, we don't know that this resulted in oceans.
Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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Message 1137 of 1482 (842160)
10-27-2018 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1131 by ICANT
10-26-2018 11:12 AM


Re: Creation
Gen starts off in the first verse telling us it was already finished. Done. Complete. So whatever we see in the rest of the chapter has to be read with that in mind. The woman talked about there was the one already created. It just tells us some details of how.

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Message 1139 of 1482 (842235)
10-28-2018 12:39 PM
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10-27-2018 10:50 PM


Re: Creation
What there was was water and apparently more, since the stuff was divided from the land. Whatever water there was in no way had to be the oceans we know today.

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Message 1141 of 1482 (842301)
10-29-2018 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1140 by ringo
10-28-2018 2:31 PM


Re: Creation
The distinction being oceans are huge. Seas can be smaller. But even if there was a big land mass surrounded by what we would call an ocean, a lot more water was introduced to the surface of earth.
Even assuming, as I do, that the high mountains were caused by post flood mountain building, a lot of water had to be involved with covering mountains.

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Message 1148 of 1482 (842368)
10-30-2018 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1144 by ICANT
10-29-2018 3:19 PM


Re: Creation
That is why He made a garden. For mankind to start there and later branch out to all the world.
Since He made the stars and sun and moon on a certain day, I suggest that does tell us when space was filled with stars.

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Message 1149 of 1482 (842369)
10-30-2018 12:49 PM
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10-29-2018 2:54 PM


Re: Creation
No, by the time the water and land was separated in the days of creation, that is when we started having the land. After the separation. That is when we had seas in which God created fish.

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Message 1150 of 1482 (842371)
10-30-2018 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1142 by ringo
10-29-2018 11:57 AM


Re: Creation
It is not unscriptural to suggest that a lot of upheaval, continental separation along with mountains being pushed up, happened after the time of the flood actually.
You ask how God got water to earth? There were conduits in heaven called windows of heaven. Many think that these transported water from beyond where the stars end (the firmament where stars were placed and made) to earth!

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Message 1157 of 1482 (842436)
10-31-2018 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1155 by ringo
10-30-2018 10:37 PM


Re: Creation
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
One place? THE dry land..?

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Message 1158 of 1482 (842437)
10-31-2018 1:55 PM
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10-31-2018 4:54 AM


Re: Creation
There was no rain. There was lots of water from below the earth, and there was rivers.

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Message 1159 of 1482 (842438)
10-31-2018 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1153 by ICANT
10-30-2018 7:53 PM


Re: Creation
Animals and man after the flood presumably still had one big land mass to spread out to. This suggests the continents moving came after.

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Message 1160 of 1482 (842439)
10-31-2018 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1151 by ringo
10-30-2018 12:58 PM


Re: Creation
Nothing in the bible says in any verse or chapter that which you claimed. Since many changes are recorded showing the world was different some time after the flood, having the continents separated at that time fits well.

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Message 1162 of 1482 (842441)
10-31-2018 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1152 by JonF
10-30-2018 1:19 PM


Re: Creation
False. There is no evidence of the old ages science invokes, it is all based on one belief only, that the nature was the same, so things took a long time. Ha.
It makes sense and is the simplest explanation to consider that the migration after the flood happened on a big land surface. There are some bible commentaries, for example, that say that the continents separating were all part of the earth dividing in the days of Peleg, as well as languages etc.

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