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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 1165 of 2073 (841886)
10-23-2018 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1161 by RAZD
10-23-2018 3:51 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Wrong. It is a belief that somehow it happened. They just grasp at straws to try and find some plausible way it happened other than creation.
Human records that almost universally include spiritual beings and influences is evidence. What is not evidence is your hand waving attempts at washing it all away for no reason.
Claiming human behavior is a result of evolution or any other cause is belief. So, if we teach in an area with a majority Christian population, it seems meet to include their beliefs where beliefs must be inserted.
Public schools or any other schools have no option but to include teachings riddled with and spawning from beliefs, and that very much includes so called science beliefs.
If you want to include all the things there is no evidence for top of the list is origin science claims and fable. If you want to claim there are no beliefs underlying the teaching of history, sex education and other lessons, you are ot fooling all of us here. Science can fool some of the people...some of the time...and out of this they make a good living!

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Message 1175 of 2073 (842065)
10-26-2018 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1166 by RAZD
10-23-2018 11:28 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Your dating methods have no value and are wholly religious.
Yes natural processes exist now and can be tested on earth now. Nothing to do with claiming such a nature existed long ago.
Since most beliefs and most history includes spirits, that does make spirits a common denominator. Since science is only natural/physical, that renders science absolutely castrated when it comes to knowing anything about spirits.
There is a lack of evidence from science that says no spirits existed. That renders them unable to partake in any discussion of the evidence of ancient records.
You are in no position to tell us what human behavior is a result of.
In a Christian majority area, they would believe Jesus created all things. They would believe in prayer. They would have some reverence for Scripture.
There is always bias for one belief over others. Since much is unknown, there must be some beliefs involved and taught.
The accurate portrayal of origin related so called sciences is that they are absolutely belief based.

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Message 1176 of 2073 (842066)
10-26-2018 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1167 by ringo
10-23-2018 11:48 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Evos should face heavy fines for even using the word reality.

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Message 1184 of 2073 (842161)
10-27-2018 2:22 PM
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10-26-2018 9:28 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
I do not need to show correlations are right or wrong, only what they are based on...and that is belief. Your denial is useless.

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Message 1185 of 2073 (842162)
10-27-2018 2:24 PM
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10-26-2018 12:00 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
I would like lies to be relegated to something other than mandatory beliefs imposed by evil people.

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Message 1186 of 2073 (842163)
10-27-2018 2:26 PM
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10-26-2018 10:43 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
False. When spirits are included in almost all beliefs, that is compatible. The issue of what they did, and which ones were good and bad is beside the point. People teaching that they know there were no spirits are liars, and uniformed, ignorant false teachers.

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creation
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Message 1193 of 2073 (842233)
10-28-2018 12:35 PM
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10-27-2018 4:02 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
If we do not make invisible beings visible and show them to you they do not exist. Ok. How about if anything in the universe exists, we must bring it to your bedroom?

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Message 1194 of 2073 (842234)
10-28-2018 12:37 PM
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10-27-2018 4:38 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Correlations as you present them are easily explained. A bunch of diversionary offshoots of the same tired belief.

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Message 1200 of 2073 (842302)
10-29-2018 10:34 AM
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10-28-2018 11:55 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
The bible says Satan appears as an angel of light. So if some spirit calling himself Gabriel appeared to some guy, I see no problem with that.
If it had actually been Gabriel, we could tell. Every time Gabe came to earth, if I recall, it had to do with announcing the coming of One Person. Jesus.
Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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Message 1201 of 2073 (842303)
10-29-2018 10:37 AM
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10-28-2018 9:16 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Despite your personal inability to see all your zombified so called correlations rest on one belief and one belief alone, that you cannot address, let alone prove, you are defeated.

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Message 1202 of 2073 (842304)
10-29-2018 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1196 by ringo
10-28-2018 2:13 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Evil folks are not those we should ask questions from.

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Message 1203 of 2073 (842305)
10-29-2018 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1195 by Tanypteryx
10-28-2018 12:51 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Far as I am concerned the absolutely overwhelming evidence in most records of antiquity by mankind of spirits is evidence spirits existed. Since science knows nothing about anything to do with the spiritual, it is sidelined. Get out the dunce cap for science on this issue. Certainly we should not ask science if spirits are real or not. They are truly clueless.

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Message 1209 of 2073 (842372)
10-30-2018 12:55 PM
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10-29-2018 1:13 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
You are defeated by your inability to show your claims anything more than biased and belief based hooey.

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Message 1210 of 2073 (842373)
10-30-2018 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1206 by RAZD
10-29-2018 1:08 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Not all that is taught in schools is science. This is news? Even the stuff that is taught as science filled with belief.
There are comparative religions courses for example. They might deal in spirits in some way. For example the spirit that Mohamed spoke to. Nothing to do with natural only limited little science! How about sex ed? History..etc etc? It is not all science.

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Message 1211 of 2073 (842375)
10-30-2018 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1204 by Tanypteryx
10-29-2018 11:22 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Records are physical. This is news? You have not a shred of evidence no spirits existed as they claim. Nada. Zip. Squat. Zero.

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