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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
ringo
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Message 1152 of 2073 (841810)
10-22-2018 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1151 by creation
10-22-2018 9:20 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
You cannot explain why science of origins is not belief based. It is. Your opinion cannot change it.
It isn't. Your opinion cannot change it.
People with different beliefs - Christian, Muslim, atheists, etc. - agree about origins. Their beliefs have been filtered out. YOU can not explain why people with very different belief systems would have the same (scientific) explanation of origins.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1154 of 2073 (841813)
10-22-2018 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1153 by Phat
10-22-2018 11:51 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Phat writes:
He (she?) will likely argue that despite all having different beliefs, everyone "believes" in this false religion known as science...and thus get deluded.
And why would that be? There's a million ways to be wrong. Why would they all pick the same one?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1156 of 2073 (841818)
10-22-2018 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1155 by Phat
10-22-2018 12:06 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Phat writes:
Apart from picking on each other, science appears to be the common enemy...at least in creations world.
Knowledge is the common enemy. When you claim special knowledge of God ("communion"), you don't want people showing you real-world proof that you are wrong.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1167 of 2073 (841902)
10-23-2018 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1159 by creation
10-22-2018 11:10 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
It is. Your opinion cannot change that.
It isn't. Your opinion cannot change that.
creation writes:
No, different beliefs on creation do exist, and can never be filtered out.
That's because they're made up, not based on reality.
creation writes:
Those who have done the filtering will learn better.
Creationists don't like to learn. A creationist who does learn about reality ceases to be a creationist, so they avoid learning anything. You're a prime example of that.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1178 of 2073 (842086)
10-26-2018 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1176 by creation
10-26-2018 10:15 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
Evos should face heavy fines for even using the word reality.
Careful. Your authoritarian face is showing. You want to stamp out free speech? Do you want to put evos in concentration camps too?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1196 of 2073 (842243)
10-28-2018 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1185 by creation
10-27-2018 2:24 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
I would like lies to be relegated to something other than mandatory beliefs imposed by evil people.
Then stop lying. Stop letting your beliefs get in the way of the truth. Stop flaunting your ignorance and learn something.
Pick a topic and learn something. Ask questions instead of thumbing your nose.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 1205 of 2073 (842313)
10-29-2018 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1202 by creation
10-29-2018 10:39 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
Evil folks are not those we should ask questions from.
Then what are you doing here?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1213 of 2073 (842377)
10-30-2018 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1212 by creation
10-30-2018 1:00 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
Informing would be teachers they were actually clueless. In darkness. Ignorant. Liars. Fable mongers...etc.
But you're not "informing" anybody of anything. You're just making a fool of yourself. You have no cogent argument against science, much less any evidence to back up your ranting. And you don't know anything about the Bible either.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 1224 of 2073 (842444)
10-31-2018 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1223 by creation
10-31-2018 1:52 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
No one needs an argument against the parts of what is called science falsely, that are nothing more than unsupported fables. They need an argument.
Nope. Creationism is dead. The world will go on quite nicely without it. If you want to resurrect it, YOU need an argument. If you don't provide one, it just makes it that much easier for us.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 1238 of 2073 (842521)
11-02-2018 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1233 by creation
11-01-2018 3:00 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
False prophesy all you like.
The death of creationism isn't prophecy. It's history. Haven't you heard the news? There's no creationism in schools.
creation writes:
I will go with the already proven prophesy of God in His word, thanks.
If you want to talk prophecy, we have threads on that.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 1257 of 2073 (842649)
11-04-2018 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1240 by creation
11-02-2018 5:38 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
Your false prophesy is of no worth.
It isn't prophecy. It's history. Creationism is dead.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 1266 of 2073 (842864)
11-09-2018 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1261 by creation
11-08-2018 3:50 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
False prophesy.
So you don't know what prophecy is either.
I'm not talking about what's going to happen in the future. I'm talking about what happened in the past: Creationism was kicked out of the schools in the past.
You're the one who is predicting that it will rise from the dead in the future.
Faith may be smaller in the US...
It isn't about faith. Most Christians accept evolution.
creation writes:
... but that does not mean creation belief in the world is dead.
In most of the Western world it's deader than it is in the US.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1273 of 2073 (843319)
11-16-2018 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1267 by creation
11-15-2018 7:53 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:
In post 1224 you said this
"Nope. Creationism is dead. The world will go on quite nicely without it."
That is false prophesy.
Nope. The world has been doing quite nicely without creationism for 150 years. There is no reason to think it will not continue to go on nicely without creationism. For example, we've managed to invent, aviation, electronics, etc. without creationism.
creation writes:
You see the bible says all the world will be basically covered with the knowledge of God.
You're misunderstanding what the knowledge of God is.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1342 of 2073 (875518)
04-27-2020 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1330 by candle2
04-27-2020 8:14 AM


Re: Evolution over Religion
candle2 writes:
However, I am not kin to the apes, nor were any of my ancestors.
The apes don't admit being related to you either.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 1356 of 2073 (875560)
04-28-2020 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1345 by Phat
04-27-2020 11:59 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Phat writes:
And then again, you may not have a clever retort.
Well, your quotes from Colossians and Timothy are just opinions - and pretty word-salady ones at that - ao there's no need for a "retort". Did you understand what I said to candle2?

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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