Importance of Original Sin

I oppose gay marriage, period. Got nothing to do with anybody's beliefs and if I find a gay person bleeding in the gutter, whether delusionally "married" or not, I will help him. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't recall that. All I've said as far as I know is that if I am forced to do anything that validates gay marriage I won't do it. That is what the businesspeople who have been legally challenged did. It's about gay marriage.As far as I know there isn't yet a legal challenge requiring anyonee to validate homosexuality as a normal sexual alternative, but if that did happen CHristians would have to disobey it, yes. Because it isn't a normal sexual variation, it's sin. As described I don't see it as a disobedience of God but if because of some circumstance it is such a disobedience I won't do it. I will certainly not obey your perverted definition of love of neighbor, however. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes I'm willing to defy the law when it defies God.

You really ought to know better than that by now, ringo. The Bible is very clear that where human law conflicts with God we are not to obey the human law.

• Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
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• You might also remember that Daniel's friends in Babylon, in Daniel 3, refused to worship Nebuchadnezzar's statue which was required of them by law, and God protected them in the furnace where they were thrown as punishment for their refusal.
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• And in Daniel 6 how Daniel disobeyed the law requiring that no one ask a petition of any God or man except the king, and was thrown into the lions' den, where God also protected him as He had his friends. Pretty clear teaching that God says to obey Him and not the human powers where they conflict with God's laws and purposes.
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• In Revelation we are told that we are to disobey a decree to take a certain mark onto hand or forehead.
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• Then there are the many Christians who were persecuted down the centuries for refusing to obey various laws such as to worship Caesar, or to affirm transubstantiation or even to translate the Bible into the common languages.

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It isn't loving one's neighbor as oneself to deceive him that he is OK with God when in fact he is practicing sin.

Oh blithering pagan idiocy. What the devil told Eve as a matter of fact: no problem, sin won't kill you, naaaa, it will make you wise like God, it's good for you. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Actually that's not true, loving my neighbor may precisely require me to judge his actions, depends on the context.But I fear we're losing the thread here. Where we started was with my saying I won't obey a human law that contradicts God's law, and in this discussion that means any law that would require me to treat gay marriage as legitimate or homosexuality as normal. Since you falsely turn this into a failure of love i answered that I would help a gay person bleeding in a ditch, and would offer help in many other instances as well because this has nothing to do with loving one's neighbor. And again, loving one's neighbor is really best served by obeying God because sin is what kills us.

Error | ChristianityToday.com word judge can be used in two different ways in the New Testament. Sometimes judge is used to mean "judge between things," to differentiate, or discern. In this case we judge between right and wrong, good and evil, righteous and unrighteous.
But this kind of judging-the act of discernment-is not what Jesus is forbidding. In fact throughout the Bible we are commanded to discern. In the same chapter of Luke 6 and in the very same discourse as the famous "judge not" statement, Jesus talks about having the discernment to see the difference between good people and evil people (Luke 6:43-45). He compares them to trees. Good trees, he says, produce good fruit and bad trees produce bad fruit. The call to differentiate good from evil is to judge, to discern, correctly.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.