Creation

You're a blithering idiot.God bless and goodbye.

Why do you think it had to be created?If you think things have to be created by some form of intelligence you're going to get asked 'who or what created that intelligence?'Swiftly followed by - 'and why should that intelligence be the god you believe in?'

Fine, let's start with when.I'm waitinf for an answer.

I was inside the Arctic circle this summer, it never went dark and the sun didn't set. Does a biblical day not apply there?

Thanks, that's now totally clear. Ffs

Sure, and the cow jumped over the moon.

No oceans = no rain
No rain = no rivers

No rain = no water below the earth

Sure, magic solves all your problems. With magic you can make anything up at all. My personal favourite is when a tooth changes into a coin if you put it under your pillow overnight.

Because that's how the water cycle works Yeh, we call those oceans and seas and the are at the end of the river's journey not at its source. Cobblers.

Not exactly no. That was sarcasm.You see, to me an adult that talks this kind of irrational, childish drivel has been badly let down by their parents, the evil bastards of whatever deranged religious organisation that pedals this mindrot, the education system and the society that allows it..So it's not totally your own fault, but you're not doing much to help yourself. You need to try thinking for yourself a bit, if you can.

What I think - know - is that the more you spout nonsense, the more you refuse to understand the need for evidence to support the nonsense, the more you troll with your one line responses (though I note you've actually made a bit more of an effort in a last couple of posts), the more you invent and ad hoc, the more you look like the archetypal loonytunes fundamentalist.I suppose you think your 'arguments' are impressive but it's only to yourself. If you actually want to make progress instead of making a fool of yourself you need to bring some actual facts, rationality and logic into your posts.

What you or I believe is irrelevant to anyone but ourselves. It's what can be evidenced that matters. It should be obvious to you by now that the nonsense you make up impresses no-one but yourself so you should be asking yourself why. After all, the majority of us here are rational and prepared to accept well-founded ideas. I'd go as far as to say that if someone came here with a crazy idea that had a pile of evidence behind it, it would get a good listening to.But that never happens. What actually happens is that crazy people come here with crazy ideas and absolutely no evidence to support them so they blather on like you do until they get bored and disapear to troll another forum. They think that their demented ideas are brilliant but somehow can't get anyone but other loonies to listen to them. They should learn from this but they don't; the more actual evidence that's produced to show how wrong they are, the more they know that they're right. There's lots of terms for this effect but the simplest is delusion.You're just another clueless, childish crank.

Why do you creationists have to cherry pick stuff? Is it something that comes with the territory, that you have to be dishonest or is there a chunk of brain missing that deals with dispassionate analysis?The universe does not have to have had a beginning, it could have always existed,. This is just one hypothesis:

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Bottom line: Most of us understand the Big Bang as the idea that our entire universe came from a single point, what astrophysicists call a singularity. But we might not need a singularity to have a Big Bang, according to a new study by Ahmed Farag Ali in Egypt and coauthor Saurya Das in Canada. The catch — according to astrophysicist Brian Koberlein — is that, without the singularity, this model predicts that the universe had no beginning. It existed forever as a kind of quantum potential before collapsing into the hot dense state we call the Big Bang.

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What if the universe had no beginning? | Science Wire | EarthSky So why say that they DO know? Why do that?The truth is that we don't yet know and we may never know. But we have a number of ideas about it that we're testing against the evidence. That's how science works. It's a strength not a weakness. You don't know anything, not even how to go about working out what we do know or even reporting honestly what is said by those who'se job it is to work this stuff out. What you have is a primitive and superstitious belief that was disproved millenia ago and you're determined to defend at all costs. Including your honesty.

How the hell would I know? I'm no cosmic physicist and neither are you. I'm just pointing out to you that those that are physicists and do this work have differing hypotheses about the universe, there's not just the one that you've cherry picked because you imagine it helps your position.