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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. You may not claim any connection at all to reality. Sorry. You are connected to fables and religion is disguise.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Yes, if trees grew in weeks, it is logical that the many many rings in a tree would represent parts of a day. How? Well, we would not look at this nature to learn that.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
quote:Actually a different nature could not be expected to be explained merely using THIS nature! You kidding? You simply use this nature TO expalin it all! In a different nature we do not know the function/role of C14 in nature, nor how trees grew. Etc. By the way, please sow close ups of the rings pre 4500 level, and be sure to show the claimed 11 year cycle in THOSE rings!!!!!
quote:To pretend we would or should expect empirical evidence of a long passed history is dishonest. You have none to say it is or is not true. That is not science, that is absolute flaming ignorance.
quote:Not in detail and we can see nothing of the rings pre 4500...just some silly stump! How would we know what the supposed 344 extra rings contain exactly? You claim every eleven rings in that 344 rings have some spike from the sun?? Let's see the proof? quote:So now you only claim 4700 which is about 200 rings more than the 4500!! No details of these 200 rings...the only ones that matter in this discussion...are given. Funny, that. What are you trying to pull? quote:Smoke and mirrors, since the dead trees dendrochronology uses would have been also grown in the former nature if they were older than 4500 rings! quote:Sad excuse for offering NO details on the ONLY rings that matter here! The mere fact that there were a few hundred rings in trees already when the nature change happened is O problem at all for me. Nor does it help you since you have no specs no details on the rings that matter.
quote:The ONLY variations that matter are the ones in the rings older than 4500 'years'. Tell us about these variations..you know in the rings you can provide no details about?? quote:Cherry picking some list with spirits and that can only be dated by radioactive methods is a joke. quote:NO need to exclude the few hundred rings above the 4500. There IS a need to show up close details of these rings IF you (as you do) claim specific things about THESE rings. quote:So are the years of the reign of kings or their lif span? If it is the reign, then we would take 120 years and add a possibly long childhood and old age!!! Look at Trump, how many years will he 'reign' compared to his whole life?! Also, it is no use grasping at some Guinness book of records to find oldest living people. The king lists are of kings...not the oldest record breaking life span holders!
quote:My point exactly...THIS nature does not allow such old ages!! The evidence mounts! quote:I agree. My feeling was that it probably was some post nature change release of old flood water dams or some such. quote: What is the oldest tomb you have and how is it dated!?Just because there are some tombs means nothing. Of course some of the kings are real. Hoo Ha
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Ignorance is when you do not know what nature existed. No one cares what you believe or not about it. The fraud of calling your lack of knowing 'science' is exposed. Obviously you cannot prove your claimed nature in the far past on earth. You lose.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
True you can claim connection to reality if you like. What you can't do is demonstrate such a claim.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No comment from the peanut gallery needed as to how many rings some fast growing tree in some different past nature grew. Since the rings in question are only a few hundred, basically it is a moot question.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You say evidence does not show a different nature. Yet you post no evidence we can look at regarding the few hundred rings in question! We don't know what they look like. We have not seen any patterns in those rings posted for inspection by you, or even a close up pic. You offer religion. Blind faith.
You diss the Scripture records of who lived for no reason. They say Abraham was a contemporary with Noah and Shem. You want to claim Abe never lived also? Where does your ignorance based personal incredulity end?BASICALLY ALL HISTORY IS FAKE UNLESS YOU WAVE IT INTO SOME SORT OR SUPPOSED REALITY? You offer a king list that is known and admitted to be no good for dating. A list scrawled on the back of a document by some unknown scrawler. A list that is half missing the fragments! A list that includes spooks! A list from which many kings are question marks! Etc etc. It seems you are here to insult God and the bible and history and make stuff up?
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
If the high mountains were pushed up after the flood, why would there be?
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Yes we may refer to the current nature when talking about current things. It exists now.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
If the flood was about 4500 years ago, and a living tree had more rings than this...those are the rings you need to detail.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You show a picture of tree rings from 50 BC? Ha. You are defeated.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Not all sediment came from one year though. Some of the uplifted mountains with fossils on them could have been from pre flood seas.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
How about the KT layer? Iridium is said to come from deep below the earth, and from space...exactly where the waters of the flood came from.
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
We do know all the mountains will be flattened one day by the bible. The history in that book deals with man and God. Not detailed physical geology.
If we accept that there was continents separating and mountain building from science, then it had to have occurred somewhere in the framework laid out in Scripture. The question becomes, when is the best fit?
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creation Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
There may have been ruptured conduits of the deep (founts) that brought stuff UP. Also, maybe some iridium in the waters from above. Who knows?
So..impact in some areas..yes...from above or below? Who knows?
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