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Message 1261 of 1266 (842811)
11-08-2018 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1257 by ringo
11-04-2018 1:11 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
False prophesy. Faith may be smaller in the US, but that does not mean creation belief in the world is dead. On the contrary.
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Message 1262 of 1266 (842812)
11-08-2018 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1258 by RAZD
11-04-2018 1:38 PM


Re: Conclusion vs Assumption, Belief, teach the difference
Long lives in Sumer and Scripture, and apparently China also all agree. Science has nothing to say about it. That renders your allusions to science agreeing with your foolish and baselsss doubts and beliefs rather useless in a science thread.
The changes in life spans are at the time of Peleg in the bible. There are also no angels living with women on earth after that time. There was also a division of language and how men understood/processed info at that time. There is also no fast growing trees in history after this time..etc.

It is amusing that someone that claims the universe was farted out of some small speck o soup, and that man is related to flatworms with no evidence at all would declare the records of antiquity to be 'meaningless'!


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Message 1263 of 1266 (842814)
11-08-2018 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1260 by creation
11-08-2018 3:48 PM


Re: Conclusion vs Assumption, Belief, teach the difference
Show us any so called correlation then, that does not rest on the premise of a same nature in the past?

I don't know any so-called correlations, but you have been shown many correlations that are the evidence that actually prove there was never the kind of change in how the Universe works that you have fantasized about.

Many, many correlations are discussed in Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1


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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1264 of 1266 (842818)
11-08-2018 5:00 PM
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11-08-2018 3:57 PM


Re: Conclusion vs Assumption, Belief, teach the difference
Long lives in Sumer and Scripture, and apparently China also all agree.

All agree with what? Pure fiction.

Science has nothing to say about it.

I assume this is true, at least I am unaware of any scientist looking into it, let alone talking about it.

That renders your allusions to science agreeing with your foolish and baselsss doubts and beliefs rather useless in a science thread.

And that renders your illusions about science paying any attention to your foolish and unevidenced doubts and beliefs completely useless in a science thread. Pure fiction.

The changes in life spans are at the time of Peleg in the bible.

It's still fiction no matter how many times you say it.

There are also no angels living with women on earth after that time.

More fiction. Angels are imaginary.

There was also a division of language and how men understood/processed info at that time.

Fiction.

There is also no fast growing trees in history after this time..etc.

More imaginary, fictional fantasy.

Etc.? What the hell does that mean?

It is amusing that someone that claims the universe was farted out of some small speck o soup, and that man is related to flatworms with no evidence at all would declare the records of antiquity to be 'meaningless'!

That is pretty amusing. I hadn't ever heard the one about "the universe was farted out of some small speck o soup" before.

There is actually overwhelming evidence that humans are related to all other living organisms on this planet. The evidence is in our cellular structure and molecular biology.

What you are calling records of antiquity are not records at all; they are pure imaginary fictional fantasy. Not meaningless, but not history either.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1265 of 1266 (842853)
11-09-2018 9:23 AM
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11-08-2018 3:57 PM


Re: Conclusion vs Assumption, Belief, teach the difference
Long lives in Sumer and Scripture, and apparently China also all agree. Science has nothing to say about it. ...

What science says is what the objective empirical evidence shows, and it does not show any lifespans of 150 years or greater.

Myths are not objective empirical evidence. Fossils are. There are no fossils showing that kind of age.

The changes in life spans are at the time of Peleg in the bible. ...

Myths are not objective empirical evidence. Fossils are. There are no fossils showing that kind of age. There is no objective empirical evidence showing that "Peleg" was a real person and not myth. The bible is not objective empirical evidence that "Peleg" was real and not myth. Scripture is not objective empirical evidence that "Peleg" was real and not myth.

Myths belong in classes on mythology, not in history or science classes.

It is amusing that someone that claims the universe was farted out of some small speck o soup, and that man is related to flatworms with no evidence at all would declare the records of antiquity to be 'meaningless'!

It is amusing how ignorant you are, yet feel you can talk with authority about things you don't know.

Another thing to teach in school -- how to base an argument on knowledge of the subject instead of made up junk opinions.

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Message 1266 of 1266 (842864)
11-09-2018 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1261 by creation
11-08-2018 3:50 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:

False prophesy.


So you don't know what prophecy is either.

I'm not talking about what's going to happen in the future. I'm talking about what happened in the past: Creationism was kicked out of the schools in the past.

You're the one who is predicting that it will rise from the dead in the future.

Faith may be smaller in the US...

It isn't about faith. Most Christians accept evolution.

creation writes:

... but that does not mean creation belief in the world is dead.


In most of the Western world it's deader than it is in the US.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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