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Faith 
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Message 41 of 5796 (842830)
11-08-2018 6:44 PM


Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Of course it is mostly the usual going on over at the Trump Bashing thread, on which I am not allowed to post, but Percy's post on the Acosta incident at the press conference with his heavily leftist spin on it is too one-sided to ignore. There is nothing that isn't partisan politics these days though so no big surprise.
Here's Percy in Message 2583
Jim Acosta, CNN's White House correspondent, has been barred from the White House after yesterday's presidential press conference where the aggressively tried to ask two questions, refusing to yield the microphone to an intern after the first. Almost every reporter asked two questions. Trump verbally attacked Acosta for trying to ask his questions, as he did to several other reporters. See the 2nd video in Message 2580 for the attack on Acosta and NBC's Peter Alexander. See the 1st video starting at time 19:25 and watch for maybe 15 minutes to see Trump attack not just Acosta and Alexander, but also several other reporters.
CNN will have to give Jim Acosta a new assignment, and assign someone new to the White House.
No, Percy, Trump was the one attacked by the journalists, his reaction was correct. Acosta was being an activist and not a journalist, he was not asking questions, he was accusing the President of the usual PC perfidies, he was forcing his own definitions on the situation but when Trump did the right thing and ended his indefensble behavior it's Trump who gets the criticism, not the disruptor. When will this reign of Leftist media tyranny end, when the whole nation has gone up in flames?
The opinion on the right is against Acosta as a rude brat, and I think it's interesting that while as far as I've seen all the liberal-leftist opinion is in defense of the brat, the right is all against him, some immediately suggesting that he should be permanently banned from the White House. Why the partisan divide on a kerfuffle in the press conference where the "journalist" should have been escorted away forthwith? (NOBODY would have talked to Obama the say this guy talked to Trump, or some of the other "journalists" there either for that matter, and if anyone had he'd have been gone gone gone and nobody would have mentioned it again.)
There's even been a big flap about whether Acosta physically pushed the intern who tried to get the mike from him, people poring over slow- motion video to determine the question. That has become the reason for ousting him but it shouldn't be in my opinion, his rude behavior should have been reason enough.
Here's a video of Lou Dobbs with "Diamond and Silk" on the subject:
There's also one with Hannity interviewing Sarah Huckabee. If I find it soon I'll post it here.
Then there are the usual right wing publications, Drudge Report, Front Page Mag, Newsmax, Townhall, Breitbart, Alex Jones and others I'm forgetting.
Funny huh? Trump is right, the media are hostile, they are partisan Leftists, they've abandoned all claim to objectivity and even civility. How long is this going to go on?
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2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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Faith 
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Message 43 of 5796 (842833)
11-08-2018 7:21 PM


Midterm overall
Oh and by the way the Midterm elections WERE a win for the Republicans, certainly no Blue Wave there, not a big win, not the hoped-for sweep of the House as well as the Senate but overall a win. They lost seats in the House but only half as many as Obama did at Midterm, and something like that for Clinton too. It was, as someone on the Trump Bashing Thread said, a pretty average loss of the House for this election. (Michael Savage said that if it weren't for all the votes by all the illegal aliens even that much of a loss wouldn't have happened. Which is of course why the Leftists attack Trump for protecting the nation from an invasion too: the more illegal aliens the more Leftist voters.)
And the gain in the Senate is actually WAY better than the norm at Midterm, and it is really good news for future SCOTUS appointments in Trump's term.

  
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Message 45 of 5796 (842838)
11-08-2018 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Tanypteryx
11-08-2018 7:12 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
So what was it Acosta actually asked/said?
Oh yeah I meant to post that. It's hard on a public computer to get everything coordinated.
He basically told Trump he shouldn't have called the "caravan" an invasion, preferring nicey nice euphemisms for people who have threatened to overrun our borders, and that he was "demonizing" these "migrants." Leftist spin on a Left-organized assault on Trump, the US, etc. He put a question mark after it but it was no question. There were two parts to this question so he really had all ready asked two when he wanted to continue the assault by insinuating that Trump must fear indictmens from further probes into Russion collusion now that the House has the numbers to do it. Trump even answered that after telling the quy to sit down and yield the mike. He fears nothing, the whole thing is a hoax and has been from the beginning.
(NOBODY would have talked to Obama the say this guy talked to Trump, or some of the other "journalists" there either for that matter, and if anyone had he'd have been gone gone gone and nobody would have mentioned it again.)
And Obama never talked about the press the way we see Trump talk to and about the press every time he speaks in public. Obama did not even talk that way about the right-wing ant-Obama propaganda machine.
OK so we're going to do the chicken-or-egg do-si-do here. Obama had no reason to talk about the press that way since they fawned over everything he said and overlooked whatever gaffes he made and just loved him to pieces. And he had no reason to mention the right wing since they are so effectively marginalized you actually have to LOOK to find their opinions, whereas the Left pokes you in the eye as soon as you turn on the computer or the TV. Trump has been under unprecedented Leftist fake-news assault by the media since before he took office. I applaud the man's ability to stand up to it. I thought he handled the press conference very well, considering the hostile press he always has to deal with.
It is the most important task of the press to ask politicians questions so the public know what they are up to.
In this case that is a hollow excuse for near-criminal partisanship.
Trump acts guilty.
YOu are hallucinating. The man makes some silly and lamentable mistakes but he's pretty honest and straightforward.
Trump acts like he's special and above the law. He works for us.
More hallucinations. He's doing his best to stay on top of the constant barrage of lies and hate the Left throws at him, and to my mind doing a creditable enough job of a really difficult assignment.
He does not own the Whitehouse or any other part of the government.
He's actually trying to work for you ingrates too but he's really devoted to those who wanted the policies he is promoting. He's working for us and we're pretty happy with his efforts.
If Trump was innocent and had nothing to hide he would not act guilty and evasive, every fucking time he speaks, even when the purpose he was supposed to be speaking was about something else entirely.
Oh nonsense, he's for stuff you're against and that is feeding your suspiciousness beyond all reason.
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Faith 
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Message 46 of 5796 (842839)
11-08-2018 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Tanypteryx
11-08-2018 7:30 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Oh good grief. Get a copy of the original and break it down yourself. Sheesh

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Faith 
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Message 50 of 5796 (842873)
11-09-2018 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by PaulK
11-09-2018 12:10 AM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
You obviously misread something, or are pretending to misread something. Acosta was rude and impertinent and did not ask a legitimate question with any real journalistic intent, just threw typical Leftist accusations.

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Faith 
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Message 51 of 5796 (842874)
11-09-2018 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Tanypteryx
11-09-2018 11:31 AM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
You are completely delusional. I should have known better than trying to discuss anything with you.
Your claim that Trump "acts guilty" is subjective. I answered you with my own subjective judgment that you must be hallucinating because I don't see him as acting guilty, and I don't have a clue what you think looks like acting guilty anyway. So now I'm delusional for not sharing your subjective opinion. This isn't exactly a "discussion" anyway.

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Faith 
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Message 53 of 5796 (842876)
11-09-2018 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by ooh-child
11-09-2018 2:24 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
The man makes some silly and lamentable mistakes but he's pretty honest and straightforward.
So what am I to believe? Trump today:
I didn’t speak to Matt Whitaker about the Russia investigation, Trump told reporters this morning, I don’t know Matt Whitaker. Matt Whitaker has a great reputation and that’s what I wanted.
Trump to Fox News:
Last month, Trump told Fox News, I know Matt Whitaker.
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Why would Trump brag about this great guy last month, put him in the spotlight by replacing Sessions with him, then back away from even knowing who he is after the media exposes this guy's skeleton-ridden closet?
You guys make mountains out of molehills with this kind of thing. Trump has a (bad) habit of speaking off the cuff in the moment. He's not lying, he's just rsponding from whatever context occurs to him in that moment. When he says he "knows" Whitaker he doesn't mean he knows him beyond having met him and having a good impression of him. He may have a particular encounter in mind that gave him that impression although he saw the guy on other occasions which didn't make much of a blip on his radar screen. Then later he knows more and he responds from that new context just as he did from the earlier context, again not lying, just saying what he thinks at the moment. Who knows but this stuff is not worth all the effort you're putting into it. So he heard Whitaker has a good reputation, later he heard something different; in each case he speaks from his current position. He should be more precise but this is just a personality glitch the Left likes to magnify into something bigger than it is.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Trump didn't REPLACE Sessions with Whitaker. Whitaker was merely in line to be acting AG when the seat was vacated. This is a time-limited interim position until a replacement is chosen. He hasn't been chosen and may not be chosen.
Yes Trump gets facts wrong. They are minor facts and my guess is that he gets them wrong because he responds from the context in his mind at the moment, as I say above, which is sloppy at least and a bad habit, but still he shouldn't get them wrong. He needs someone to get across to him how this hurts his image, how the Left will pounce on it and not give him a break although they'd give a Leftist a break on such things. He needs someone to poke him in the ribs every time he opens his mouth.
But this is not about the level of basic credibility I and his supporters see in him.
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Message 54 of 5796 (842877)
11-09-2018 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by PaulK
11-09-2018 3:41 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Those are not legitimate journalistic points. They are Leftist accusations and of course a Leftist would like them because Leftists don't live in the world where people are allowed to have different points of view: whatever political correctness says is truth, and they'll even bang down a person's door for disagreeing with them, yes what they did to Tucker Carlson yesterday. This is the new fascism. They are the new brownshirts. And Acosta is just a verbal brownshirt.
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He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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Faith 
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Message 57 of 5796 (842882)
11-09-2018 4:21 PM
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11-09-2018 4:16 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
I'm taking this from radio pundits I've been listening to lately. Are you also disputing that he's merely a temporary acting AG?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 61 of 5796 (842893)
11-09-2018 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Taq
11-09-2018 4:54 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
What "point of view?" It's nothing but character assasination, nothing but calling people racist. It's nothing but cramming his own PC redefinitions down people's throats. Trump called it an invasion, and that's because it is an invasion, they accounced it as their intention to invade instead of following the law. As for Russian collusion indictments. They're going to ahve to invent them because they have none, and this is all just character assassination too. That's all the Left does.
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Faith 
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Message 63 of 5796 (842895)
11-09-2018 5:00 PM
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11-09-2018 4:57 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Is he a temporary acting AG or not?

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Message 64 of 5796 (842897)
11-09-2018 5:02 PM
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11-09-2018 4:59 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Acosta is not allowed to insult and accuse the President in a White House press conference. He is there as a journalist. He can spew all the character assassination he wants elswhere, nbody is stopping him to say the least. He does not belong in the WH press conference. I hope they don't weaken and let him back.

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Message 70 of 5796 (842927)
11-10-2018 12:47 PM
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11-09-2018 5:08 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
The question is if it is legal or constitutional for Trump to name an acting AG when there is a confirmed deputy AG next in line.
From all the commentary I've been hearing it certainly is perfectly legal and constitutional. Seems to me it would be pretty silly if he could name Sessions and then his permanent successor and not be allowed to name the interim AG as well. He didn't like the politics of the next guy in line, so he chose one he likes better, what's wrong with that?

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Faith 
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Message 72 of 5796 (842929)
11-10-2018 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Taq
11-09-2018 5:08 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
So much for freedom of the press.
Right. Freedom of the press means a "journalist" can behave like a brat, refuse to yield the microphone (and he DID push the intern's arm away too) ask questions that aren't questions but accusations, and take up time from the other press people waiting their turn. Right. That's freedom of the press Leftist style, of course only by and for lefties.
Trying to find a comment identified as from the Left, a journalist putting down Acosta, showing that it isn't only the Right that objects to his misbehavior, but I can't find it. It was said on a late night conservative talk program I was only half listening to, somebody Wolfson or Wolsey, of one of the liberal news outlets, condemning Acosta though refusing to acknolwedge that he did lay his hand on the intern.

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Faith 
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Message 73 of 5796 (842930)
11-10-2018 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by PaulK
11-10-2018 12:56 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
The issue is Senate confirmation. Whitaker doesn’t have that, while Sessions did and his successor will need it, too. So it is questionable whether Trump can go outside the ordinary rules of succession to appoint an acting AG.
Wouldn't Rosenstein have had to be confirmed too then? Why should a very short time-limited appointment, assuming basic credentials of course, which Whitaker apparently has, have to go through the confirmation process?
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