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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
North/South America are dry land and Europe/Asia/Africa are dry lamd - two pieces of dry land that are not connected. "THE" doesn't mean one piece. One place? THE dry land..?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
I didn't claim anything. I asked YOU for book, chaopter and verse to support YOUR claim that, "a lot of upheaval, continental separation along with mountains being pushed up, happened after the time of the flood."
Nothing in the bible says in any verse or chapter that which you claimed. creation writes:
Show them. Book, chapter and verse.
Since many changes are recorded showing the world was different some time after the flood... creation writes:
But it doesn't SAY that they were. ...having the continents separated at that time fits well.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
I asked you for book, chapter and verse. Yes. Spirits no longer directly dwell on earth with man. Life spans reduced 90% or whatever. Trees now take years to grow generally... And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
And there is nothing in Genesis to suggest that there wasn't. It does NOT say that all of the land was in one place. There is nothing in Genesis to suggest that there was more than one mass of dry land. And we know from reality that all of the land is NOT in one place.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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ICANT writes:
I'm pretty sure you have. Isn't that your misinterpretation of Genesis 1:9-10?
Who said it wasn't scattered all over the place. ICANT writes:
It was the people who were divided:
The earth was divided in the days of Peleg.quote: quote: Genesis 11 continues with the story of the Tower of babel - i.e. the people were divided by language.
ICANT writes:
According to Wikipedia:
Do you contend that there was never a time when there was one land mass? Pangaea comes to my mind.quote:You can't pick an arbitrary time period and pretend that it corresponds with "the beginning". And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
The only place to look it up is in the Bible. There is no corroborating evidence.
Lifespans changed greatly look it up. creation writes:
If you're referring to Genesis 6:2, what has that got to do with "spirits"?
Spirits no longer marry women and have babies on earth. Look it up. creation writes:
No, that is not evidence of fast tree growth. At best, it's evidence that the bird didn't find a tree the first time and he did find a tree the second time. If you send a bird to find a tree someplace there are no trees, and a week later it returns with evidence of a new tree...that is fast growth.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
The only quote I've seen is that the WATER was in one place:
However since the one place was a bible quote....quote:It doesn't say that the land was on one place. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
We know there is no "firmament" for there to be windows in.
You claimed windows of heaven are fairy tales. Like you know? creation writes:
We also know that it takes a very long time. We can measure it happening on a year-to-year basis, so we know it couldn't have happened since the flood.
As for upheaval, we see that in the world so it had to have happened sometime. creation writes:
There's no Biblical basis for that. It's made up.
Many feel that mountains before the flood were smaller. creation writes:
Long before the flood - so the flood couldn't have covered them.
So the real high ones had to get here somehow, sometime. creation writes:
No, there is nothing either in the Bible or in reality to suggest any major changes in mountain height, etc. since the flood.
Looking at other big changes though, we can see that a lot of changes happened right after the flood period. creation writes:
The problem with that "key" is that it can't be tested until the future. You can't just assume that something will happen and then use that assumption as corroborating evidence.
Another way to cross check this in the bile is to look at the future. I would say that the future, not the present is the key to the past in the bible! creation writes:
Isaiah 40:4? Every island shall flee away and every mountain shall be made low, and a great quake will level all mountains and all skyscrapers (towers) on earth. One good fit for this would be a rapid returning to the way it was in the past!! No. Even if that does happen in the future, that's no indication that it's a "return" to the past.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
And you're wrong. It doesn't say that. It says that all of the water was in one place.
I said that in Genesis 1:9, 10 all the dry land was in one place. ICANT writes:
Genesis 11 tells the story of the Tower of Babel. It's pretty obvious that that's what was meant by dividing the earth. Nobody ever thought it meant a physical division of the land until continental drift was confirmed. You tell me the earth was not divided in the days of Peleg but the people. So why did Moses say in the next chapter: Edited by ringo, : Speling.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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ICANT writes:
It's an inaccurate map. It doesn't show the Americas at all.
The oldest map of the world shows a land mass surrounded by salt water, and dates to the 6th century BC. Which would agree that the dry land was in one place. ICANT writes:
I'm talking about what the text says. It is clear from the text that The "division of the earth" in Peleg's time was the dispersion of languages from Babel.
What difference does it make what people thought or think today. The only thing that matters is what the text says. ICANT writes:
There's no point in trying to discuss Hebrew with you when you're so confused about English.
If you want to dispute what I said about the division of the earth and the separation of the people you will have to take the Hebrew language and show where the words mean the same thing. ICANT writes:
We already know that YOU don't know what you're talking about. Either dispute the text or admit that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. As I said, nobody thought of the continents being separated until continental drift was confirmed. That includes Hebrew scholars. Your version is NOT how Hebrew scholars read it.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
Fast-growing trees is not an explanation at all because there is no such thing as fast-growing trees. Noah knew when he saw that fresh leaf from a tree that the thousands of animals were no able to leave the ark. Fast growing grass and trees mean lots of food now. That is the best interpretation.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
Whether it was continents or tiny islands is not relevant. The land was separated from the water and the dry land appeared. It says the water and land were separated. It does not say that continents were formed then.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
No it isn't.
Since sons of god are best interpreted as angels...quote: quote:etc. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
"Best' is just your unsupported opinion. Another, more straightforward, interpretation is that the "sons of God' were the offspring of Seth - i.e. the "good" offspring of Adam, as opposed to the offspring of Cain, who were the "bad" offspring of Adam. The title sons of god is best associated with angels in the OT.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
You claimed in Message 1215 that, "It says the water and land were separated. It does not say that continents were formed then." I'm just pointing out that the land was the continents. So?? Of course the land appeared.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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