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Message 245 of 5796 (843611)
11-19-2018 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by caffeine
11-19-2018 1:08 PM


Re: Acosta’s credentials to be restored - for now
According to a news report I heard early this morning, the White House has issued a written protocol for behavior in WH press conferences in response to the court decision, beginning with the statement that they would have assumed there should be no need to spell out such commonly understood rules of civility.
ABE: CAFFEINE: You mention a post of Percy's that refers to a prececent but I can't find it in the voluminous stuff he's written. Please post the exact reference. Thanks.
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Message 247 of 5796 (843615)
11-19-2018 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by PaulK
11-19-2018 4:07 PM


Re: Avenatti said "She hit me first."
That's because it was an early report when they thought it was Avenatti's wife, but you can find other reports of his saying "she hit me first." I just posted the first one that came up. I heard it many times on the news when the story first came out.

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Message 249 of 5796 (843617)
11-19-2018 4:15 PM
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11-19-2018 1:08 PM


Re: Acosta’s credentials to be restored - for now
CAFFEINE: You mention a post of Percy's that refers to a prececent but I can't find it in the voluminous stuff he's written. Please post the exact reference. Thanks.
You are certainly right, this is hardly an attack on press freedoms.

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Message 250 of 5796 (843618)
11-19-2018 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by PaulK
11-19-2018 4:15 PM


Re: Avenatti said "She hit me first."
Why are you assuming TMZ was the original source?

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Message 251 of 5796 (843619)
11-19-2018 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by JonF
11-19-2018 10:24 AM


Re: Acosta’s credentials to be restored - for now
You were asked for an analysis. That's an unhinged rant, not any kind of analysis.
What are you talking about? The quoted paragraph was somebody's condensation of the content of the radio show, not a "rant" for pete's sake.
The transcript is available. Not free except for interested parties. I don't know where.
There is no reason to doubt that it is very hard to come by according to Levin who said he and his wife and his producer were all unable to find it "in the usual places." And the same difficulty was reported on another talk show I heard this morning.
The problem may be, as Levin explains in that radio show, that this was a "ruling from the bench" rather than a written ruling. So the transcript is a court reporter's account of the proceedings and not a written ruling. This may explain the difficulty getting a transcript.
If caffeine is right that the judge was following a precedent that may solve the whole problem, since that is information that Levin was not able to find before doing his show.
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Message 252 of 5796 (843629)
11-19-2018 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by PaulK
11-19-2018 4:15 PM


Re: Avenatti said "She hit me first."
Here's a report that says TMZ was the original source but that their information was corroborated by the police:
Avenatti "She hit me first" - Search

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Message 259 of 5796 (843848)
11-21-2018 10:33 PM


It Ain't Turkey Day
Abraham Lincoln's Thanksgiving Day Proclamation
Editor's Note: This 1863 proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln set aside the last Thursday in November as the date for giving thanks. We republish it in its entirety.
The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.
Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle, or the ship; the axe had enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years, with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and voice by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to his tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility and Union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.
On this day we thank God for our many blessings to this nation, and to ourselves and families, the God who has revealed Himself in the Bible, the God who was recognized in America and the west generally until quite recently. He is God and there is no other.
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Faith 
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Message 269 of 5796 (845106)
12-12-2018 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by Percy
11-19-2018 9:50 AM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
Enjoy: ‘Nothing on this page is real’: How lies become truth in online America
I'm not reading anything from the Left, I get overdosed on it just by opening the internet or coming to EvC, without actively choosing to read it. It is not just "online" America but all the news media and everywhere you look there are nothing but Leftist lies that are unfortunately taken to be the truth by everybody here. The disconnect between what I read here and what I get from the conservative commentators is enormous. It's all designed to bring down Trump whom they hate with a purple passion, by hook or by crook, by spin and by lies, so they will turn moral failures into felonies, and incautious exaggerations or memory failure by him or anyone he knows into prosecutable lies, and invent a huge collusion with Russia out of thin air. It doesn't exist but as long as they keep acting like it does, repeating the lie in the hope that it will be believed, which Leftists only too easily do believe, and pretending a whole slew of unrelated small crimes by other people, that are totally unrelated to Trump's campaign, prove Russia did collude with him to influence the election, they apparently think they are going to influence Trump's supporters to turn against him by all this. I certainly hope not but lies can be powerful, as Hitler knew. Meanwhile what SHOULD be prosecuted is that fake "dossier" that was paid for by Hillary Clinton that was supposed to destroy Trump, her wanton destruction of the evidence of her emails, and all her other serious crimes that got a pass by the Leftists who are out to get Trump instead.
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Faith 
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Message 271 of 5796 (845110)
12-12-2018 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 270 by Phat
12-12-2018 10:20 AM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
Sorry, I feel I have the ability to judge even if you don't. But I'd also bet you aren't making the effort I've been making to hear the commentaries on the Right.
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Faith 
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Message 274 of 5796 (845115)
12-12-2018 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by Phat
12-12-2018 10:36 AM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
Yeah, well don't pat yourself on the back too vigorously, you can't miss the Left's commentaries, they're In Your Face wherever you turn. That's the point. Percy's been doing a pretty good job of keeping up with them for instance, just read his stuff on the Trump Bashing Thread. You have to go out of your way to hear the Right's point of view.
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Faith 
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Message 276 of 5796 (845119)
12-12-2018 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 275 by Phat
12-12-2018 11:05 AM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
Anybody who thinks there's any kind of equality between Left and Right these days so that we have to be "fair" and hear out both sides is really missing it completely IMO. The Left is on a political vendetta, period. I can't even say here what they are guilty of doing because of the prevailing deception. What they are doing to Trump is an abuse of power, a complete violation of what America is supposed to stand for, a complete contempt for those of us who voted for Trump. They are trying to pull off a coup like any third world tyranny and they don't care how they do it they are so sure of their own rightness and so disdainful of the time honored institutions of America. They even try to turn all that against us. It's beyond disgusting.
By the way I haven't been following Infowars these days, not that I've given up on them, but I'm still hearing the radio talk people I started listening to for the Midterm elections. Still particularly like Mark Levin, but there's also Hannity and Limbaugh and Michael Savage and half a dozen others not so well known. They mostly think allike on all these things though there are differences among them. They talk to laywers and in some cases are lawyers themselves, they do their homework, they make the Left sound like the bunch of politically motivated conspirators and manipulators I think they are.
I would like to have heard what Schumer and Pelosi think is their effective enough plan for border security as they kept saying yesterday in the meeting with Trump, but it came across very clearly that they don't like the idea of really protecting our borders, and that Trump does, Trump is really truly for America and for Americans, and they are traitors though we aren't supposed to think that. No, what they in fact are they smear on Trump instead. He doesn't deserve it, they do. Gosh could it be that all they really want is to get enough illegals into the country to increase the population of Democrats? Against the will of the people? No matter what it does to national security? They actively support ILLEGALITY. They actively support sanctuary cities that are bastions of defiance against American citizens and the rule of law, and all that slimy corruption gets rationalized as some kind of moral virtue. Yuck.
There you go patting yourself on the back again. How proud you are of your "questioning" everything. Gosh, it's even your "nature." Well, of course it is, it's your fallen nature. We all have the fallen nature. But believers are supposed to be training ourselves in how to walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh (the fallen nature), not bragging about our "intelligence" which walks by the flesh. Hey, we are supposed to "question" everything EXCEPT the Bible because it's GOD's WORD. If you don't believe that you are no better than all the atheists here even if you claim to be a believer. No wonder all you have is your own subjective feelings since you reject the only objective source of knowledge we have of God and His plans for us.
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Faith 
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Message 279 of 5796 (845127)
12-12-2018 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by Taq
12-12-2018 11:51 AM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
Trump didn't say Mexico would pay for it up front but will pay for it in the end. Of course he has to get the money from Congress first.
One of the million differences between Clinton or the Clintons and Trump is that he didn't commit his "affairs" in the Oval Office, or even at any point when he was campaigning for the Presidency, and what he did before has nothing to do with any of that, hard as the Left is trying to make it seem it does.

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Faith 
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Message 280 of 5796 (845128)
12-12-2018 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by Taq
12-12-2018 11:48 AM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
There were no campaign financing laws violated no matter what Cohen said.

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Message 282 of 5796 (845130)
12-12-2018 12:10 PM
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12-12-2018 12:06 PM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
Oh I don't claim any knowledge, I'm just trying to get across something of the Right point of view as I've been getting it, but there are plenty who do know all this and I really hope their views are going to have an impact in the end.

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Faith 
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Message 288 of 5796 (845141)
12-12-2018 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by DrJones*
12-12-2018 12:14 PM


Re: The Gullibility of the Right's Echo Chamber
No. poll 85 Percent for Trump's wall.
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