Gun Control III

of course they can, don't be an idiot. You can't murder someone just because you're doing it in your own house, neither could you traffic in drugs or produce child porn. It's you "I am the LAW" type of inbred cousin humpers that give the rest of us law abiding gun owners a bad name.

and this is not true. Live in the right state, jump through the right hoops, pay an arm and a leg and you too can own a fully transferable class 3 firearm.

Hi Dr I got a speeding ticket in 1956 I was doing 67 in a 55 zone.
I got a second speeding ticket in 1987. I was doing 83 in a 70 zone.
That is my entire rap sheet.So maybe I am one of those law breakers you were talking about.God Bless,

Hi Dr And just how many of those exemptions from the law been issued.
They are just exemption from the law. They do not change the law.God Bless,

wrong again. Look up the National Firearm Act. As long as you live in a state that allows it, pay the $200 tax and jump through the legal hoops set out by the ATF you can own a fully automatic firearm. lots. Look up the Knob Creek machine gun shoot or any of the various class 3 dealers on the interweb.

Don't try to play coy, you're not clever enough for it. We both know that the context of the discussion was that if there was law that mandated that firearms be stored unloaded and secured that you'd disobey it, that you think you're above the law.

In fact, there are very few laws that you can break in your own house.

It's like you have no memory at all of prior discussion, even what is quoted for you. So you're giving up on the wall and are now advocating for exorbitant fines for anyone caught employing illegal immigrants?Points you ignored:

• You're still ignoring where I described meaningful approaches to stemming the flow of illegal immigrants in Message 591.
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• You were wrong to say someone at a gun show who knew he wouldn't pass a background check would purchase a gun from "the black market." He would of course purchase it from a private party.
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• You were wrong to imply that private sellers require booths to sell guns, as illustrated by this image:
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• You were wrong to imply that private sellers have no way perform background checks, as illustrated by this image:
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• You were wrong to state that Democrats want open borders and Republicans want closed borders. Neither want either.
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• You were wrong to state that a closed border is the border between legal entry points. That is not a closed border. An example of a closed border is that between North and South Korea. What we have between the US and Canada and between the US and Mexico are controlled borders. What they have between countries of the EU are open borders.
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• You were wrong to dispute that Trump is lying when he says Democrats are for open borders. He is clearly, obviously, overtly and purposefully lying.

You can barely make it through a sentence without saying something wrong or idiotic.--Percy

Lots if government regulations, gov't mandated medical care and education, and a living wage. And you think this is a good thing? Congratulations, you are starting to become a liberal.

You just can't help yourself, can you. If there's a stupid position to be taken, even one that's already been clearly explained, you'll take it. In essence you're arguing that we should have no laws because criminals don't obey laws. Further on you say you don't believe you have to obey the law when you're in your own house. This is, of course, not true. I don't know what's more amazing, the volume of your false statements, or how obviously dumb and wrong they are.If you're not obeying the law when you're at home then you're not a law abiding citizen.--Percy

Good grief, the idiocy continues unabated. Try committing assault, murder, rape, possessing an automatic firearm, running a still, running a dog fighting ring, killing protected species, holding a party where you serve minors alcohol, running a poker game where the pot exceeds $10 (Florida law), stealing videos off the web, etc., etc., etc.Your home may be your castle, but it is not your own legal jurisdiction.--Percy

You can't even be self-consistent from one sentence to the next. First you ask Pressie how he would thoroughly investigate anyone, as if that were a really difficult problem, then you say this is already done when guns are purchased through a federally licensed dealer, which just means a background check. And background checks are already available to anyone, as this image you've seen before shows: Pressie might have meant something more intense than a simple background check when he said "thoroughly investigate," I don't know.Garbage must have been flowing into your brain for a very long time, because we're only getting garbage out. You're again arguing that because criminals break the law that we should have no laws. It was dumb the first time you said it and it's still dumb. My God, it just doesn't stop. Not only has no one has ever stolen gold from Fort Knox, it's never even been attempted. Would you propose that cars not have locks because they can be broken into anyway? Of course not. So why would you propose that firearms not be safely locked away? Why do you not understand that a gun in the house increases the danger to those inside? Wrong again. Licenses are difficult to obtain, but civilians can obtain fully automatic weapons. What is the point of this irrelevant information? It doesn't matter what you call it. AR-15 style weapons are too dangerous for possession by the general public. I'll bet you can feel the dopamine and adrenaline just pumping into your brain just thinking about it. The rest of us would prefer that you not be allowed anywhere near firearms. You're a menace. Thank you for this additional irrelevant information. I couldn't find precise numbers, but probably less than around 20% of people are killed by firearms wielded by criminals. Let's tackle the biggest problem first by passing strong gun control measures.--Percy

Not satisfied with making this dumb statement once, you make it again, inconsistently this time, saying "law" in the first sentence and "rules" in the second.You can have whatever rules of the house you like as long as you do not break any laws. You do not make the laws in your own house. You are not your own legal jurisdiction. You cannot assault or rape or break any other law, even if you're in your own bedroom. Michael Avenatti was just arrested a couple weeks ago on suspicion of domestic abuse while he was in his own apartment. Do you really believe this crap that you write?--Percy

Actually, The People told the government, before the Supreme Court, that laws prohibiting certain sexual behavior between consenting adults in their own bedrooms were unconstitutional and The People won.

Other people have answered you quite eloquently. I just want to comment on this: In our case my brother keeps his 2 hunting rifles in a police approved safe in the house where my wife and I live.We live in a security village with a surrounding electric fence and 24 hour security guards at the only gate.In our house the gun safe is bolted to the floor and to the wall. The safe has a combination lock and a normal key lock. One key is kept with my brother (living around 2 km away from the safe) and the other at our parents' house (also around 2 km away from the safe). I don't know the combination to the other lock and neither do my parents. Only my brother and his wife know the combination.So, unless the criminals blow up the safe and are also able to open it, they won't be enabled to get hold of those hunting rifles at all.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.