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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
edge
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Message 1188 of 1498 (844069)
11-24-2018 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1176 by creation
11-24-2018 3:22 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
However, I happen to know my Friend that made the planet, and have details of the materials He uses in other projects.
So, when are you going to present these details?
Material such as Gold and diamonds and rubies, and topaz and amethyst, and spiritual materials, and lapis lazuli, and emerald for example.
So you are a new ager, yes?
Please present to us the spirtual properties of gold.
The model of the inner earth science offers has us living on fire and dirt in a fluke universe..etc etc.
Fire?
Dirt?
How do you know it is a 'fluke universe'? You have some others to compare it to?

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edge
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Message 1206 of 1498 (844118)
11-25-2018 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1198 by creation
11-25-2018 3:32 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
I could drive a mac truck through the gaping holes in your science/religion.
Considering that there is not such thing as a 'mac truck' that would either be incredibly easy in your fantasy or impossible in the real world.
So unless someone posts on topic here and something of substance, I guess I'll try to let the thread R.I.P. Ha.
Considering your failure to accomplish anything here, that might be a good idea.

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edge
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Message 1207 of 1498 (844120)
11-25-2018 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1195 by creation
11-25-2018 3:22 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Using the word reality does not make you related. Sorry. Asking us to show you some conduit to the inner earth that existed thousands of years ago only, is awfully foolish.
And even more revealing when you can't do so.

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edge
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Message 1208 of 1498 (844122)
11-25-2018 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1196 by creation
11-25-2018 3:23 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Let's look then if the KT layer involves any sediment!
Heh, heh ....
For those who are interested, that's what we've been doing all along.

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edge
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Message 1209 of 1498 (844125)
11-25-2018 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1189 by Capt Stormfield
11-24-2018 9:43 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
I fear you have fallen into the trap of expecting the troll's words to represent something in the real world. That appears not to be the case. It appears that its use of language is more akin to Mark Twain's character Mr. Ballou, who used words for their resonance and grandeur rather than their meaning. Words, for this person, are more akin to a mantra, a drone, a soothing and repetitive collection of sounds. Kind of like really bad scat singing without the music. The lack of connection to reality is of no concern.
Oh, not much fear of that. We've been going round and round on this "alternate states argument ' for years now. It never changes. I post more for other the audience to read than for the individual.

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edge
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Message 1214 of 1498 (844176)
11-26-2018 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1213 by Pressie
11-26-2018 5:57 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Igneous Complex. Their's no doubt that the Bushveld is an Igneous Complex.
Not deposited by magic fluddies.
You don't get it.
This is easy: In the previous state, you could go fishing in lava lakes and catch Cambrian trout.
I just love doing YEC science!

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edge
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Message 1225 of 1498 (844327)
11-28-2018 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1221 by creation
11-27-2018 5:31 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The fact remains that the biblical flood was said to have caused a great great extinction!
Heh, heh ...
It is said by YOU, yes.
Your fable about the KT layer also claims the same thing.
The point being?
The waters came from space and deep under the earth...
According to you.
... iridium is said by science to come from there also!
Now you are going to draw some illogical conclusion?
If the crater was left by some impact from under the earth to above, ...
Something that has never been documented, observed or even predicted.
... we would have the same striations etc.
What striations are you talking about?
It's pretty clear that you have not been reading our posts. That is convenient for you but very discourteous as well as anti-science of you.
You spout random words such as 'iridium' and 'striations', and even 'above' and 'below' like a child's toys in a very small playpen. You really have no understanding of them, do you?

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Message 1227 of 1498 (844329)
11-28-2018 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1224 by RAZD
11-28-2018 8:14 AM


Re: concurrent evidence shows correlations
Well, it is AIG... and Snelling ... so one would expect misleading information and misinformation.
Yes, it is Snelling, a person known for massive cognitive dissonance since he acknowledges deep time in his previous day job as an economic geologist where he worked on Precambrian uranium deposits in Australia.
So, it would be easy for him to dismiss old age dates and normal plate tectonics as having changed dramatically somewhere in the past so as to befuddle all of the scientists working in these areas. That way it's easy to selectively ignore huge amounts of data.

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edge
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Message 1228 of 1498 (844330)
11-28-2018 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1216 by creation
11-27-2018 5:08 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Easy peasy. Detrmining when a bottleneck 'happened' is based on current genes/DNA/genetics. Unless the nature was the same, why would molecules and atoms have behaved exactly as they now do? Why would the genetics of a former nature be the very same as now?? Proof?
Why would they not?
Please tell us how atoms and molecules did react in a previous state and then we can have a nice discussion about it.

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edge
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Message 1238 of 1498 (844407)
11-29-2018 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1235 by creation
11-29-2018 2:41 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The shocked quartz markings at the crater were what I was talking about.
SHOCK METAMORPHISM – Crater Explorer
Okay, so you're going to show us how 'upward directed impacts' form by presenting a website that shows no such thing.
You attempt to show us 'striations' related to impacts by presenting an article that says nothing about striations.
You present a website that you have no capability of discussing.
Thank you for confirming that your whole scenario of time, life and geological processes is based on total and unadulterated ignorance.
And no, the great extinction of the flood was not my idea. Nor where the bible says the flood waters came from.
Well, no one else here is professing these notions.
In case you didn't notice.

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edge
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Message 1239 of 1498 (844408)
11-29-2018 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1233 by creation
11-29-2018 2:24 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Why would they not...why would they...both are questions above the pay grade and knowledge and depth of present day science!
You are evading. Answer the question.
Since trees grew in weeks in the former nature of the bile (also the future nature interestingly) and man lived about 1000 years, and evolving was fast fast fast fast, it seems logical to rule out present genetics!
Unsupported fake premises.
If this is all you have, you make a mockery of YEC.
But since science doesn't know, it is a matter of belief not knowledge or present science.
If science doesn't know something, that makes you correct. Is that your logic?
Does Arkham know that you are on the loose?

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edge
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From: Colorado, USA
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Message 1245 of 1498 (844490)
11-30-2018 9:33 PM
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11-30-2018 9:24 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The point you ignore is that the evidence of shocked quartz seems to be nothing more than evidence that something hit the rocks real fast...whether from below or above is the question it does not answer. Does it?
All you show here is that you have not read my previous posts.
This has nothing to do with shocked quartz.

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edge
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From: Colorado, USA
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Message 1247 of 1498 (844492)
11-30-2018 9:36 PM
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11-30-2018 9:26 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
To declare the recorded growth rates of tree in the ancient world 'fake' you would need some proof that the current nature existed then. You have none, rendering your claims fake news.
Not at all.
If you are going to posit an alternative state, you should give us evidence that such a thing exists or existed, or even could exist.
Or you could agree that we do know of one state that actually does exist.

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edge
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Message 1250 of 1498 (844495)
11-30-2018 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1249 by creation
11-30-2018 9:39 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
I posit that science uses the present nature/laws for models of the past. They do.
There is no reason not to do so.
Try to wiggle out of it all you like.
Try to wiggle out of the fact that there is no other known state of nature.

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edge
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Posts: 4696
From: Colorado, USA
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Message 1267 of 1498 (844584)
12-02-2018 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1263 by creation
12-02-2018 1:30 AM


Re: Evo demolition expert
How do you know iridium was NOT with water??
This is gibberish. What do you mean "with water"?
What in tarnation do you think some volcanologist has to do with fountains of the deep mentioned in the bible?? Utterly ridiculous.
If something were erupted from the core of the earth, it would seem that volcanologists would be involved.
You claim the events were millions of years ago, but that is solely based on same nature in the past belief! Got anything else?
Actually, there were many such events, including the much younger Eltanin impact which also yielded a large harvest of iridium.
You claim you know that the Yucatan impact was from above and offer no intelligent conversation, or support or detail.
I went over that in an earlier post. Please have the courtesy of reading and attempting to understand.
Instead we see some drooling insults to record of God, and allusions to some experts that you can't cite, or explain what they say!
This has nothing to do with any god. Your own posts prove that.
You conflate a world of religious nonsense with a world of evidence.
Heh, heh ...
Lurkers, behold the fallen state of the defenders of the evo faith here! Pathetic. The once might have fallen.
Hadn't observed this, but we note your opinion.

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