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Message 3 of 19 (844706)
12-04-2018 11:19 AM
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12-04-2018 8:25 AM


This excerpt seems pretty cut and dry though.
It seems he was a atheist.
quote:
For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.
Stuart Chase
I myself struggle with my faith all the time. But I have found some measure of comfort at times, when everything seems impossible and dire, that there may be a God and perhaps some measure of hope in the face of hopelessness. I fluctuate between every degree of believing-agnositc-atheist-nihlist all the time.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 7 of 19 (844718)
12-04-2018 1:29 PM
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12-04-2018 1:09 PM


Re: and then we have Hawking!
I just read a article:
After you die, your brain knows you’re dead, terrifying study reveals
Does Your Brain Know When You’re Dead?
Apparently we know we are dead right after we die.
this is kind of unsettling. The thought of laying there on the gurney knowing you are dead. Then what? The big mystery.
I'll admit that it frightens me.
I like Gandalf's take on it.
quote:
PIPPIN: I didn't think it would end this way.
GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.
PIPPIN: What? Gandalf? See what?
GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
PIPPIN: Well, that isn't so bad.
GANDALF: No. No, it isn't.
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
Edited by 1.61803, : fix link

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 9 of 19 (844720)
12-04-2018 2:01 PM
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12-04-2018 1:32 PM


Re: and then we have Hawking!
When I was a soldier I worked on a General Medical ward in El Paso
WBAMC. I seen death almost on a daily basis. I'll never forget a gentleman in my care was terminal and told me he was going to die "tonight at 9:00 pm." As my shift drew on I kept a eye on the clock and when it was about 20:45 hrs I went into his room. He was still alive and talking and he asked me,
" Is there anything you want to tell God cuz I'm gonna see him tonight."
I thought for a moment and said to myself, this is a unique opportunity to get a message directly to God. So I told they guy to just let God know I am doing my best as a person and have mercy on me.
The guy said he would relay my message.
I did my best to comfort the old guy and reassure him that he had a good life and was a good man and a good husband. All the sort of things you can think of to comfort someone dying. He did die that shift but not a 9:00 like he thought.
I envy that mans faith that he took such comfort in his beliefs.
I envy his certainty.
Stephan Hawking must of suffered terribly throughout his life with his illness and despite the consensus of doctors he lived a long and fruitful life. We needed a Stephan Hawking and thankfully we got one. And to quote some old Irish priest I know ( in his thick Irish Brogue). "Even if you don't believe in God, he still believes in you."

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 11 of 19 (844726)
12-04-2018 2:36 PM
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12-04-2018 2:15 PM


Re: Night Of The Thinking Dead
I agree with this. But still the idea of having a sudden cardiac arrest and be conscious long enough to know it sheesh.
Then there is always the idea of a sudden decapitation and whether or not there is enough time and neural activity to formulate a thought that .....damn I'm dead.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 15 of 19 (844733)
12-04-2018 3:36 PM
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12-04-2018 3:07 PM



"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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