Brexit - Should they stay or should they go?

The party vote didn't happen in parliament, and was not called a parliamentary vote.I seem to be struggling with clarity here.

My understanding is that the vote of no confidence that happened was an internal Tory decision on if May could continue to lead her party. Corbyn's proposed vote of no confidence is for parliament to declare if she is fit to be Prime Minister, but I'm not sure what if anything would happen then if that vote was lost, except for embarrassing her enough that she chooses to step down. But if that was the case she would have stepped down a long time ago.
However, the government would remain. Because of the fixed-term parliament act there'd have have to a vote of no confidence in the government to cause a general election, not just the prime minister. If that provides any clarity is anybodies guess.

As I already pointed out, PaulK did call it a Parliamentary vote in Message 360.

Ringo you are still confusing two different votes.There was the vote held by the Tory party. That was not a Parliamentary vote.There was the vote proposed by Jeremy Corbyn, which would have been a Parliamentary vote.

No I am not. I understand the difference. Your post looked to me like the vote that was taken was a Parliamentary vote.

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No I am not. I understand the difference. Your post looked to me like the vote that was taken was a Parliamentary vote.

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In the Message 360 which starts with the sentence: That then states And which then goes on to talk about the vote that Corbyn was proposing and in the last paragraph: It seems pretty clear to me that the Parliamentary vote was the one that Corbyn was proposing as leader of the Opposition, not the Party vote that May had already survived.

Well, it wasn't clear to me.

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Well, it wasn't clear to me.

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Then ask yourself why not.It seems pretty obvious to me that the vote that would have removed May as Prime Minister is not the vote I described as just theatre, to raise just one point.

But as I said, not to me. I can see that your post could be read that way.

And I can’t see how my post can be read your way.

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has stepped up calls for a general election "at the earliest opportunity" to "break the deadlock" over Brexit.

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In a speech, he said a new government would have a fresh mandate to negotiate a better withdrawal deal with the EU.

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He told Theresa May: "If you are so confident in your deal, call that election, and let the people decide."

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The Conservatives said Labour did not have a plan for Brexit and were "playing politics".

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Brexit: Jeremy Corbyn demands election to 'break deadlock' - BBC NewsI am guessing this is mostly just grandstanding since the minority party can't call for a general election. So far as I know.But we are getting down the homestretch now with the vote for May's deal being next week on Tuesday. It still looks like she doesn't have the votes for it to pass, so I wonder what will happen if/when it fails in Parliament. I guess its anyone's game at that point.I was watching a pundit discuss this and he suspected that the first vote for May's deal would fail. But then there would be a subsequent vote and that it would likely pass. Largely due to the backlash MPs would face from constituents who would likely start seeing a lot of volatility in the currency and stock markets that will affect them directly. Hard to say if that is right. But being that there is so little time left, it does appear as though May's Deal or No Deal are the only options left. There isn't enough time to call for a second referendum or a general election. Unless they get an extension of Article 50. And from what I heard, the EU is unlikely to do that unless there is assurances that 'Remain' will somehow be back on the ballot.Edited by Diomedes, : Fixed typo

I don't think that a general election would solve anything as one of the two major parties may get a majority or just under a majority of the seats anyway. These major parties are completely just as divided about Brexit as the other one.A general election won't solve the problem. It might just postpone the implimentation of Article 50 for a few months. That's about it.

I would agree. Not to mention, there is insufficient time to call an election prior to the Article 50 deadline.The remaining options at this time that I see are:- May's Deal
- No Deal
- Second ReferendumThe last one is a long shot in my mind and comes with copious risks. The only way a second referendum would even be viable at this stage is if the EU ratified an extension for the Article 50 deadline. And I think the only way they would agree to that would be if 'Remain' was somehow on the ballot. Perhaps they can orchestrate some version of a referendum that has a weighted system (ranking). But the danger is if the referendum still leans towards leave. There is no guarantee that people will now vote to remain. So if a referendum gets called and the answer still ends up being leave, it will be a disaster and will likely result in a hard Brexit.

May loses by 432 votes to 202 - the biggest Parliamentary defeat for a government in modern times, smashing past the previous worst (a mere 166 votes in 1924)At least she did better than the single Amendment that was voted on - that went down by 600 votes to 24.