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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Your quote is just a wild assertion. If there's anything more specific at the link you must quote that. I'm not reading it, it's your job to make your case.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You don't kbow how to give specific information, just assertions?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
There is no such violence by the right wing and if you've offered any evidence it's behind a link and I'm not going there. Quote it. Not generalities, specifics. My girl comes out swinging. But, you are well able to do your own research. You certainly have the equipment and the (screwed-up, miss-wired) intellect. Oh, m’love, Regardless of ideology or worldview, the evidence is quite clear the right-wing is rising once again on this planet. And as in generations past, they are coming out violently.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Cut the assertions and generalities, as I asked. That's YOUR job, not mine.
No. Antifa is new and dangerous, and it's your job to make your case. And yes, research IS too hard for me. The right wing who are rising are not violent at all, it's the Left that is violent, the right are the needed correctives to the Left that has been gaining in its evil power for decades now. Thank God for Trump who wants to restore our Constitutiohnal freedoms and the qualities that made America great, but unfortunately the demonic Left still wields a lot of demonic power to back their totalitarian ambitions that would put us all in mental chains and turn the country into a third world cesspool. What, you think you are high enough in the hierarchy to get yours over our dead bodies or what? No you are deceived like most of the Leftist useful idiots who have no idea what is really happening. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
you didn't hear about the murder of 11 Jewish people at their Synagogue?
edit: Whoops I got the city wrong so it is possible that you could have not known what I was talking about because of my mistake. My apologies, the snarky portion of my post has been deleted. Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Ooo, that tongue! You have such a way with words.
It sits deep in the bowels of society for a generation or two (if we’re lucky) and becomes so infused in some corners of society that even the most wonderful little old ladies get absorbed.
What, you think you are high enough in the hierarchy to get yours over our dead bodies or what? Well, that is one way to accomplish some things. We’ve had to go there before and, most unfortunately, looks like we’re going to have to go there again. Just gotta hope the damn bastards don’t take too damn much of the world with them. If we’re going to crush them, the sooner the better. That’s just a practical thing. Limits the additional damage the planet would suffer on top of what we’ve already done to it. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I don't kbow how to give specific information, just assertions!
FIFY. The report I cited is specific information. Here's more :
quote: Left-wing v. right-wing violence . At the link each incident is linked to details of the incident. James Fields drove his car into a peaceful crowd in Charlottesville, backed up, and drove in again. He killed Heather Heyer and injured dozens. He was found guilty of murder by a jury of his peers, which recommended a sentence of life plus 419 years (for the other charges) and a fine of $480,000. He has yet to stand trial on federal hate crime charges. His schoolwork clearly showed neo-Nazi beliefs. GAO report 27-2300 COUNTERING VIOLENT EXTREMISM: Actions Needed to Define Strategy and Assess Progress of Federal Efforts includes a table of 59 right-wing violent incidents that resulted in death(s) from 2002 through 2015. I've extracted that table into Page Not Found and increased the text size. The last entry is: "Anti-government survivalist extremist killed 3 at Planned Parenthood clinic including a responding police officer 11/27/2015 Colorado Springs" Those are specifics. Let's see your detailed list of antifa incidents.
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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And yes, research IS too hard for me.
Then don't post unless you have support in hand, and include that support..
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's not my job to research YOUR points. Get a clue.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Can't make any sense of what you are saying.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
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Harvard professor Cornel West, who organized some of the counter-demonstrators, said that a group of "20 of us who were standing, many of them clergy, we would have been crushed like cockroaches if it were not for the anarchists and the anti-fascists who approached, over 300, 350 anti-fascists". West stated, "The neofascists had their own ammunition. And this is very important to keep in mind, because the police, for the most part, pulled back."
Wikipedia Unite the Right rally And to show one more example of what the Right was doing:
Twenty-year-old DeAndre Harris, a former special education instruction assistant from Charlottesville, was beaten in a parking garage in an assault that was captured by photographs and video footage. The footage showed a group of six men beating Harris with poles, a metal pipe, and wooden slabs as Harris attempted to get off the ground. He received a head laceration requiring stitches, a concussion, a knee injury, a fractured wrist, and a spinal injury.
quote: Please support this claim.
quote: Please support this claim. Bear in mind that Antifa is a loose alliance of groups who believe in active opposition to fascism and do not necessarily agree on everything.
quote: But apparently equally violent right-wingers must be shielded and protected. Why else are you so determined to cover up their crimes ?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Can't make any sense of what you are saying. Sorry for being so opaque, M'lady. I was speaking about the insidious nature of the fascist violent values of the right-wing and what this world has had to do in the past to put them back down.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1050 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
No. Antifa is new and dangerous, Antifa is not new at all. Antifa groups are older than I am. They first appeared in the 70s in Germany and Britain and spread to the US in the 80s. All that's new is that the US media seems to have recently picked up on, and become obessesed with, the word, (and comically mispronounce it). In the US antifa groups traditionally used the term less as well, probably because there was less of a tradition of openly fascist groups in the US. But groups like Anti-Racist Action were just antifa by another name.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I see. The Fascist values, however, are on the Left these days. We supporters of Trump want to preserve the freedoms America has always been famous for, but the Left is out to turn us all into zombies who toe the party line. They are totalitarian tyrants. That's fascism. And Communism. And Islam. And Roman Catholicism. It is not American conservativism.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II. 2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well I never heard of Antifa until they made the news for beating up people trying to attend a lecture at Cal, and then in other places and lately on the streeths of Portland Oregon IIRC. . And I don't know how to pronounce it and don't care. They say really really stupid dangerous things about the rightness of doing violence to people who are doing absolutely nothing but expressing an opinion they don't like. even killing them. How very Hitlerian brownshirtian. They should all be in prison for the indefinite future but such is our sick political climate these days that isn't happening.
In the days right after Trump was elected people merely wearing MAGA hats or shirts were beaten up by gangs, dragged out of their car and beaten up. I don't know if that was Antifa that early on or just Leftists, but the violence has been coming from the Left against innocent people since Trump won the election. And to keep this all in context, I certainly wasn't saying there has never been right wing violence ever, I was saying the violence we are seeing in this political climate now is Leftwing. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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