AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)

In God we trust & one nation under God -was meant to be brought up to show that The government seems to like the impression it is on God's side. And that the US is considered a christian country by many. Your recent enemies say something like you are on a 'holy war'. As if as christians, for example. Your country has sent out more missionaries than any other. And has enjoyed a certain amount of protection from God. My own opinion is that you are not a christian country, and that christians there should basically get very serious about seperating themselves from your rule. For starters, my humble little opinion would be to sell all the churches in the country. (Before you folks shut them down anyhow, and they get nothing out of it) Meet in halls, or beaches or something a lot cheaper. With the money, then use it to preach the gospel in all the world. Maybe some of it to rescue the kid's from your diobolical cluthes! I would also suggest they do not support bombing towns full of people, therefore get out of your godless military. I also suggest real boycotts maybe 50 million strong of evil activities and or products. I also suggest they protect their children at all costs from those anti Christ types who like to X out Christmas, and steal their faith. I could go on, but you may not like some of my more controversial opinions! Like the catacombs in Rome, you fight the way Christians should fight. Not dropping nuclear weapons on humanity, but trying to heal, save, and convert them to Love. You see Love is precisely, literally, unarguably, God! here is the equation, God = Love Love = God. That's why He gave His Son-Love! So for the US itself, if they delare themselves (as they for the most part are-anti Christ)- then great! Sooner the better! Then everyone knows where they stand. Until they p or get off the pot, at least, I am all for having God taught, and promoting evilution outlawed! As it will be shortly anyhow all over the world, as the waters cover the sea.

about what?

You'd have to get to know the One it's named after to understand. Then it's a little like asking, 'why do you think you mother is not trying to kill you'.

My point being not what year each phrase was implemented, but, as those words on the money, show, you like to say your with God. This isn't opinion. So much of the world has saw you in that light. You claim that light on your money. Your history from the beginning bears witness. I don't care what year, or who, helped create the impression you folks claim you & God are buddies. I know you're not. But the world, still is somewhat confused, and with good reason! (2+2=2=4) Joke is right. OK tell us the exact day Jesus was born, so we can fix it up. Jesus loves the little children, and said of those who would offend them (one of His children) that it were better that a milstone be hung around their neck, and they be cast into the midst of the sea! The country you seem to think is yours has a very many of His children. I would very much suggest you stop offending their spirits, their faith. ?? What people's thoughts are these you think I'm afraid of?
"The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God"

( God in chap 2 goes back & expounds on the situation, like why Adam needed a lover) When God made the animals in the last chapter, it was because of what He's talking about here..the reasons-fleshing it out. Absolutley! As pointed out it's not another 'version' but a closer veiw point angle.(zoom) The order is in chapter one. In chapter two, we go back and take a closer look. Of course, as I hope you can see now. What we have is God explaining to man where he came from, so we'd have a sort of 'Maker's manual'. That's why Jesus refers to believing in Him as 'standing on the Rock' ..it is solid, not like thw sand of something like evolution, that is shifting, and is not wise to build a house on!

Like I said, the point is that regardless of why, an impression of christianity exists, and it's fortified with vitimins, and three essential minerals. So Since In God you say you trust, and since your christian majority isn't dead yet, what is this 'democracy' business anyhow? You say you do not know. No idea. Not the faintest clue! Then your XXXvo logic (just shorthand)mentality comes in and says, "I can pretty much guarantee it was not on CHRISTCHRISTCHRISTmas"! You guys really know how to date things! Your guarantees, our children can really bank on! They are in good hands!As far as your pagan history, if they happened to do something then, why would I care? same with Jesus birthday, I don't care when it was! Nor do I know. Despite your guarantees, of which you are totally ignorant, as you admit!! The thing is that's when it is celebrated. people talk around us all the time, so what. It's the little children you are picking on that a lot of people don't like. Can you guarantee that?
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" -Jesus

"that I can see" fine you can't see it. I tried to patiently explain it to you, it's not 2 versions. And every word can be taken literally. You know, the bible can't be uncderstood with the "carnal" mind. If anyone is struggluing trying to understand it, what you really need to do is pray this little prayer, and then you will start to ubderstand "Jesus, please come into my heart, and forgive my sins. Thank you for dying for me, I accept your free gift of eternal life, please send me your Spirit to help me understand things, and help me love others, In Jesus name. amen"
He'll help us if we ask . Without this being born again in the spirit though, these things can not be understood. "I thank Thee, that thou hast hid these thingds from yhe wise, and revealed them unto babes."
Since you weren't able to believe me, maybe one day He'll show you. Meanwhile, it's a nice weekend coming up, I want to enjoy a lot of it. You all do the same. As far as my part in this thread, it's over. I'll leave the other posts as the last word.
--and remember, somewhere, sometime, when you least expect it.."smile you're on God's candid camera!"

Yes I have, Sorry some of you folks can't seem to understand. Chap 2 goes back, Adam's already created, we go over it, and expound on it. I guess it must be coded somehow so those who just want to contradict it and make fun of it won't 'get it'. Sorry, it's plain as day to me. I suggested how you could get to understand it if you really wanted to. As far as closing the thread, that's what I thought I tried to do. So no need to threaten to do it, as I already considered it done. We'll have to agree to disagree on your big supposed contradictions in Genesis.{edited by AdminTL to fix quote code - no content changed}[This message has been edited by AdminTL, 02-20-2004]

Good, maybe you can join the majority of americans here, who in a recent poll agreed with gipper on a literal flood. Most Americans take Bible stories literally - Washington Times Also true evolution is merely a 'model to explain certain facts that has been observed' Creation also is a model to explain the same facts, by and large. As far as danger to your kids, perhaps socialist states who like to steal people's children at the drop of a hat are a real danger. People trying to force their belief of a lying God, and errant bible, and making fairy tales of facts, and turning facts into fables, like evolutionists also are dangerous. Pick your poison, God - or the supposedly scientific, sly, serpentine substitute sacriledge spread in schools.

(about the majority believing in US)..fine, you are free to maintain your minority position, of course, as you wish. You are welcome to argue that as well, of course attempted refutation, yes, based on widely accepted belief in old age assumptions based aspects of science. But, to paraphrase Mark Twain, 'the rumours of it's death have been greatly exagerated!' Why, does the state there fit the bill on the child stealing score? Anyhow, I don't know that much about that particular country, except that the women are pretty. If it is very pure, and uncorrupt though, congratulations, most countries are not quite perfect. Of course not! That is why creation science is growing. And that is why the falsely called science that omits the creator must decrease. Bully for you. If I were teaching evolution, I would certainlt reccomend people follow that advice much more than has happened (at least outside your country).

Science is a very big area, and understanding really almost any of it properly, would include a creator. If the parts of science you have been familiar with don't even touch on where it all came from, and Who made everything, then you maybe need to broaden your horizons. You could say education in general does not even touch on God either. If so, it would be out of touch! How can History be understood, if you miss the Designer behind the design? How can art be learned without knowing about the One who made beauty? And the same in music, math, or just about anything, who made the rules? To suggest that the only knowledge that should be allowed, or science, is that which utterly devoids itself of the Good, is selective deception. To this honored position of near irrelavancy, belief in alternative theories of orgins (evolution), and an accidental universe would best be suited. My view is of it happening just the way God said it happened. I guess you personally as I were not in the poll. Now if we polled Europe, as to whether they believe or not, your opinion may be of a more popular flavour. And if we polled the muslims, they might be overwhelmingly numbered with a belief in creation. And on we could go, South America, etc. Since a lot of the conversation in this area of the forum was touching creation taught in the US, I included a poll to put in perspective the big picture there. In that context the opinion you expressed was a minority one. From the way you talk about creation and science, I get the impression Sweden would have a majority who would agree with you. I don't.

Yes. I believe in them implicitly. Apparently you have some misconception of revealed facts. What I want doesn't matter much, what you want doesn't matter much. God has a written record, so I don't need my or your opinion of what He thinks happened, it's as plain as the nose on your face. You don't have a monopoly on science, or knowledge, or God. Theres lots of facts out there, and some choose to interpret them as self creating accidents. The very idea of such philosophy, people of faith the world over find stinky. Even more odorous however, is the 'I am as God' attitude that the adherants of this neutered nitwit nonsense nurture.

Hmm, I wonder if you are serious? Sounds kinda callous to me. I think you are suggesting all people who post here must be beyond hope. I guess we can take it as a vote for creation.

Well, my rock dating is fine, it's those who come up with old dates I question. As far as 'natural' or not, all these dead things in the rocks and strata may not have died as natural a death as some people think. As far as "other observations" as long as they do not assume evolution, some of them may be honky dorey.

I look at a rock and realize it was made not much more than 6000 years ago, or perhaps around flood time. The 'nose' suggests no dating be delved into, so we can't dazzle each other with our old age young age assumptions. Assuming there is no creator, assuming there was no flood, assuming the cosmos conjured itself up, etc. Why I think I'm right? Because I just happen to agree with the Almighty on this one.